Portal talk:Education

If you want to experiment with a radical new version of Portal:Education you can work at Portal:Educationnew.

If you update featured content on this portal, make sure that you update Portal:Education/Featured.

Note: this discussion page started at Wikibooks in the context of creating a Wikiversity school of education. A new page for the School of Education was started at this website before the old page from Wikibooks was imported to Portal:Education. Portal:Education has now been adapted as the general education portal of Wikiversity. School of Education is currently the main content development project for the School of Education. Newer discussion about Wikiversity education in general is after the older material about the School of Education.

Older discussion from Wikibooks
The text in this section came from Wikibooks.

suggestion
I suggest more and more poeple to join this part, for Education is the way who we transfer our knowledge and who we influence the future.

I use the "Educating", "Teaching", "Answering" to envolve the differnt School of Education, mainly Authoritic Education and Democratic Education; but as believing the democratic way, I cannot write objectively.

This topic of 'Education' is so vast, that it might be too imposing for people to start. I would love to start a sub-topic, say 'Distance Education'. If that was possible. - anyway, just a suggestion.

I moved the topics of elearning, instructional design, blended learning, and (new) learning management systems to the Instructional Technology page, thinking these were properly sub-topics.

For the next few weeks (April, 2005) my students have an assigment to contribute to this section. We welcome your comments and additions.


 * Tspannaus

Introduction
I think some serious planning is needed to get the School of Education up and running. There are many methods for this and I'd like to suggest one particular approach. You can thank Rudyard Kipling's Just So Stories and in particular the poem that comes after "The Elephant's Child"

I keep six honest serving-men

(They taught me all I knew);

Their names are What and Why and When

And How and Where and Who.

Creating a strategy for the School of Education
First we need to ask why a School of Education is needed. Then taking into account the answer to the why question we need to look at what outcomes the School of Education should provide. We need to answer this question in the context of what technology will be used, who will be involved in the project, where they come from and the time frame for the project. Then we can work out how to achieve these outcomes. At this early stage it's important to clarify why the School of Education is needed. Without a clear motivation for the project people are unlikely to commit time and energy into building this project. If there is no clear reason for the project it's likely to get bogged down in the myriads of possible outcomes for the project.

A method of deciding why we need the School of Education
There is a two part method to clarify the reason for the project. The first step is to generate a long list of as many reasons as possible. This should be done without any constraints as to what is feasible or even sensible. The second step is to priorities this list and select the reasons that participants feel are most important. The reason for the long list is to explore a wide range of possibilities for the project. Things out of the leftfield sometimes produce a wining combination.

Fantasy School of Education
To generate a long list of reasons to setup the School of Education we could ask as many people as possible to describe their fantasy School of Education. This could be a description of the School 10 years from now or the kind of School they would want to study or teach at. We can then conduct a pole or some other voting system on this list to identify the most important reasons. Mystictim 01:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC) 01:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

My Fantasy School of Education
Please add your version of a fantasy School of Education below:

Our approach to learning hasn't changed much since Plato's Academy. The School of Education will lead the coming revolution in learning. With the massive changes in technology we need a new approach to learning and the School of Education will be where this change takes place. The School will be a cutting edge center of excellence for the study of learning through out the world. It will lead the way in developing and implementing learning strategies and tactics focusing on virtual delivery but with application to traditional methods. It will lead they way in promoting a truly international curriculum for world citizens of today and the future. Education needs to move from a proprietor and authoritarian approach to a shared and egalitarian one. The School of Education will work with all the other schools to identify and promote the best methods for learning and the appropriate use of technology. Any institute running teacher training course at all levels will come to this site for the best teacher training learning materials. The School of Education will be the place for research into education and learning. Mystictim

Newer discussion after the move from Wikibooks
my fantasy school of education goes back to Plato's teacher, the utterly curious and completely courageous Socrates. Socrates talked with everyone, learned from everyone, and shared with everyone. he's perhaps our first wikiversitian. he taught for free, thought no subject above or below him, and was unmoved by government authorities. my fantasy school of education goes back to the origins of the scholar as a student who takes others with him on an unending quest for learning. Using wiki technology this would translate into collaborative learning as collaborative writing in terms of a number of forms: the essay, the dialogue, creative narrative, and so on. --Smithgrrl 02:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

One of the things that struck me about the description in the actual Portal page, was how there are more students then teachers and that students/non-experts should not be afraid to start adding content right away. It seems to me that the point of view of those new to any subject is invaluable to improving the learning process. I am new to HTML and taking classes in Web Design. I have contributed to this area because I think that what I have freshly experienced gives me an insight into how learning a completely unfamiliar subject might be done. I think this point could be stressed more in general around Wikiversity to help gain more support for this project and to increase the confidence of potential contributors. Talonhawk 04:16, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

New page format
I have started Portal:Educationnew where we can make a new version of Portal:Education. My main goal is to include featured content and links to other Wikiversity content about education. --JWSchmidt 18:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The contents of the older version of the portal were copied to Portal:Education/Wikiversity model. --JWSchmidt 02:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikihigh
Some of the people here would probably be able to contribute to the Wikihigh project, which is an attempt to emulate a complete high school education here at Wikiversity. Any help there would be much appreciated. The Jade Knight 20:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Discussion Revival
Here, in the introduction to this portal, is an example where the rejection of "online courses" suggests that any definitions of WV possessing lessons are being replaced with definitions of WV possessing "learning materials" and "learning activities". They are no coexisting. Paradoxically some of these "learning activities" consist of the development of online courses by a class of students. At the moment this note is one of my breadcrumbs. I will develop this into a complete argument later. Mbrad 18:10, 13 February 2010 (UTC)