School talk:Economics

NEWS
Hello, I'm Endless Melee. I'm currently doing my best to organize and breathe some life into the School of Economics. I don't know who frequents this school or how often, so I'm going keep this section at the top of this discussion page in order to keep new and existing contributors up to date. Let's make this happen!

July 14, 2006 - New departments: Department of Text Development and  Department of Research. Please check them out and let me know what you think!

--Endless melee 22:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Just to say I am also looking to contribute to the School of Economics here at Wikiversity. I'm er........learning at the same time however. Iqbar 19:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

too capitalist a viewpoint?
I think this explanation is biased toward capitalism and not an objective, academic analysis. Needs to be reworked.

I cannot see why we need a wikiversity school of Economics to explain some terms already explained in wikipedia in a way better controlled by a broader group of users. If this is to help people learning more than can be learned from an encyclopedia it should include questions to work with for example. Get-back-world-respect 23:22, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * In reference to your first sentence, my response is: Hardly. It quite clearly follows the Marxist view of the "progression" of economic systems throughout history and essentially ends with the question, "When will we figure out how to implement Communism successfully?"

Capitalism has been studied more than socialism (i think) and therefore it would make sense to involve it more in the school. Socialism still needs a big section but it won't be as big as the capitalism one. And anyway, all english peaking countries are capitalist.

What about if you list the syllabi of major countries' economics exams and then point links to the correct pages. - i can give you the UK A-Level Economics Specification pretty easily.

There could also be links to topics which either further illustrate the point (to helpl with the understanding of the subject) and also to let people have the ability to delve deeper and deeper into a smaller and smaller area of economics. - just a thought. smaldj 22.59 4th September (GMT)

Needs a major overhaul
I fixed the subject ares by organizing required from electives. Whoever wrote the paragraphs below regarding capitalism and socialism, etc should have his work transfered to a "Economic Models" page. Focus first on the basics such as supply and demand before looking at the different models. That's why the dude upstairs thinks there is a bias. If it is ok with you guys, I'll make a proper definition, hope to upload it before New Year.....

Humble Guy.....

--- Would It be a decent idea to copy and paste wikipedia entries on Economics, socialism, capitalism etc. to give "students" a broad introduction. I feel that a collection of wikipedia entires constitude a pretty decent introduction to economics, and that our time might be better spent delving into specifics examples, problems, and methods. thoughts?

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OK, in that case, I agree, I just hope that it meets its objectives.

Humble Guy...

--- IMHO, I don't think a copy-paste solution is appropriate. A link in the title of each of the subjects might be better? I'll do that, but if you don't approve, get rid of it. You can't deny that Wikipedia definitions will be more complete, accurate and authoritative than most Wikibook definitions at least at this stage. It's important to remember that the course can't consist only of Wikipedia links, which is all too easy to do!

Secondly, what about a series of questions? A "Test yourself" section would be very useful! Cheers, Mark Lewis 18:00, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Yup
Yes, in that regard, a copy paste solution is not appropriate. A link will be good, at least in the short term. Surely, we need to make pure texts (maybe with graphs etc) for wikiversity is a supplement to wikibooks. In the end of the day, all that we do is for making the books. This is going to be tough. We need more man power, maybe asking lots of wikipedians to be wikibookworms will do the trick....Humble Guy

Overhaul Part 2
Hey, I removed the long textual stuff. Those things should be written in the course texts themselves, not in this page. I also introduced some course titles for a start. I encourage people with even just a little knowldege in eco to help out. A core of 25 people and countless contributors will do the trick. I would also like to remove the links to wikipedia articles, because wikiversity and wikibooks should be independent from wikipedia. But I'll remove it later pending comments from the one who placed the links in the 1sr place. Anyone pls help. I can't do it alone, and I do not have time for doing alot by myself. User:Humble_Guy

Schools of Thought
Hey, I just jumped in, and what school(s) of thought is (or are) being taught? What about...say...the other schools of thought, e.g. Keynesian economics, et al.? -- Pablo

Another School of Thought
what about Austrian economics?

WSE School of Thought
So far, all eco programs are not yet finalized. The curriculum is still being determined, even the textbooks. After the curriculum is made, one may begin to see a pattern to which school we may belong to. BUT, objectively, WSE must say that it is open to all possible schools of thought, and the WSE teaches and learns every possible school of thought. (We may even make our own school of thought after 10 years time) :-)

This open-to-all approach is due to the global reach of the WSE. The mentioned is also VERY important for current WSE development. WSE should be open to and aware of all, though my personal views suggest that Keynesian, and Neoclassical are educational priorities. Lets wait and see with the others. In the meantime, each school of thought will be available, once there will be an abundant supply of true experts from each field, and there comes a demand for their knowledge. :-) Humble Guy

Urgent Priority
More importantly, I encourage everyone to register to wikibooks, and help write textbooks. The titles the WSE urgently needs are in the WSE welcome page. Pls. contribute if you can. Humble Guy

dell
There is a wikibook simply titled macroeconomics which I've been trying to put some sense into. However, with exam season coming up I will not have much time to work on it. The initial author (maybe one of you?) clearly had a higher level of understanding than me (last year of school), but seemed to assume a lot and didn't always explain himself. I'm trying to make a basic, common sense book that won't get too bogged down in mathematics to be incomprehensible to the layman (see the bits on economic policy and unemployment to see what I mean - though they are incomplete currently). With more work, it could be added to the required section of these courses...

I would really appreciate someone sorting out Macroeconomics:Keynesian Cross Model and Macroeconomics:Savings and Investment - I can't see how some of his working adds up! Thanks, --Mark Lewis 09:57, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

wikibooks and wikiversity
I don't know if anyone is still working on this wikiversity, but I would say that it might be more important to finish one of the economics wikibooks before doing much more with the wikiversity. Macroeconomics, which should probably change its title to Principles of Macroeconomics, seems the most likely candidate to be the first wikibook finished. Anyone want to put some work into it? DettoAltrimenti 16:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

missing Khaneman
It seems to me that a conceptually important psrt of economics is not included in the listing. A recent Nobel, to Khaneman, is 'official' recognition of this. It is sometimes called cognitive economics and bears directly on a fundamental assumption of economics, namely the nature of the participants. That assumption is of 'homo economicus' the rational decision maker and evaluator in all economic decisions. H. econ's characterisitics underly nearly all economic modeling, and changes in the characteristics assumed for H. econ will have some large consequences.

In short there's a mismatch between human reality and the simplified humans classified as H. econ.

An important omission, I think. Ww 20:55, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Infonomics
I think a chapter on Infonomics should be included. Infonomics is sort of a new theory but it is very important in this day where Information is one of the most valuble things. This guy would be a good person to get in contact with regarding this http://athene.csu.edu.au/~hskoko/ Matt22nsw 06:56, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Joining Up
Hello, I'm new to all this and I just signed up! I did some work on the Intermediate Macroeconomic Theory text because I thought nobody had done any work on any of the macro yet, but based on what I read below, that might not be the case. Are we going to have multiple texts on the same material? We already seem to have two macro books going...

I also noticed their aren't any department heads besides me. You guys should really put yourselves up there and list where/what you're working on so we (and new entrants) can see which sections need help and which are well-supplied.

Otherwise, I'm glad to be here and hope to help in anyway I can!

''I think we might do better organizing a set of different sequences for the courses so that students can take certain sequences rather than all those courses listed. Actually I kind of think we might need to rework the current setup so that maybe there are Intro Econ, Basc Micro, Basic Macro, Intermediate Micro, Intermediate Macro, and then a series of upper-division courses that focus on certain aspects in detail: e.g. financial markets, game theory, econometrics etc.''

Let me know what you think.

--Endless melee 07:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Joining
Hey, I'm new to this as well. I'll do whatever I can to help but you've gotta tell me what you want.

Just a thought, but i reckon a section on everyday economics (see books - Freakonomics & Everlasting Lightbulbs) might spark some interest to the economi-phobic of those out there.

Look on my page to see what I can do but if you want anything on Macro, Micro, Industrial, development economics or EU Economics [Did a module on the UK and it being in the Eu and World Economy].

--smaldj 22.56, 4th September 2006 (GMT)

Import
Hi guys, I've transwikied (imported) many of your school's pages from wikibooks, and fixed up all the links from on the main page. Please tell me if I've done something wrong. --Draicone (talk) 09:24, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

new here
hello everyone, I'm new here but would like to contribute, perhaps to an "4th year" learning course. I also have a link to a free intermediate macro book http://www.sfu.ca/~dandolfa/macro2006.pdf Mdelves 07:37, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Course request
I'm a complete newcomer, but I was wondering if someone could put together a course/class on economic warfare. It seems to me that this topic might also fall in "History" but I think it might be very interesting to learn. Thanks.

Hi, why is everyone so quiet
I am new to the Wikiversity, and feel I can contribute to the school of economics. It seems a bit chaotic to me. So lets start setting up a system that is fast, efficient and minimizes duplication. Reply and lets start working. PhD²
 * Wikiversity is relatively new; "a bit chaotic" is a good description. Where would you like to get started? --JWSchmidt 13:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Related Department
Hi all, I am presently invovled in the School of History and was wondering if I could get the School of Economics to place a 'Related Schools/Departments' list on the main page. I am a part of the Department of Historiography, which is the study of how History is practiced. Economics plays a major role in the way Quantitative History is practiced. Since Quantitative Historians are historians that strictly deal with statistics, and mathematical forumulas, I believe the School of Economics and Department of Historiography are directly related. Please contact me, or write on the discussion page of the Department of Historiography Dctrainor 19:56, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that this is a good idea and I like the idea of a collaboration among schools. Sjwillis39 18:41, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

splitting off Learning resources
Perhaps the learning resources section could be moved to Economic learning resources, and just a few primary ones could be kept. This way, the page will be a bit more focused. --Remi 05:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

possibly pertinent link - "1-Ener1 sees hybrid battery costs halving"
August 2008 1-Ener1 sees hybrid battery costs halving Emesee 04:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Needs Topic: Heterodox School
Hello all, I'm new but I'm looking forward to contributing. I think we need a section for Heterodox approaches to economocs. Then we need to move Institutionalist Economics out of Topic: Political Economy and put it into the heterodox section. What you think?

Changes to Page
I have made some big changes to the layout of the page. Some of the other changes I have been thinking of include a consolidation of the Divisions and Departments section into actual Divisions and Departments. I think that 5 general Divisions could cover the range of departments pretty well. They are:
 * 1) Division of Economic History and Schools of Economic Thought
 * 2) Division of Microeconomics
 * 3) Division of Macroeconomics
 * 4) Division of Behavioral Economics
 * 5) Division of Mathematical Economics

The different departments should fit pretty well into one of these sections. Any thoughts on this? Is anyone else working on this page?

Sjwillis39 18:41, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

"How to Save $1 Trillion a Year with Open Source"
http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2549

"How to Save $1 Trillion a Year with Open Source"

Content for main page
So it seems obvious to me that the Economics section has, effectively, no content and no contributors. I'm currently working on a rewrite of the main page but, since there is no content, I need ideas for what to populate it with in the short run. Pertinent links and articles that can quickly be written would be good. Also, if you have an opinion on how the main page should be organized in the present, please tell me (future organization can be sorted out when there is some actual content). So far my ideas are:
 * 1) The small amount of material we already have, of course.
 * 2) Links to good, Free, textbooks, recordings, videos, etc.
 * 3) Links to Wikipedia entries for famous economists, Wikisource for famous works.
 * 4) Links to blogs of actual economists, sorted by school of thought (is this useful for learners?)
 * 5) A short article describing some of the different schools of thought, their methodology and focus. I would like to see each school described by one of its proponents, so contributions very welcome!

If you have any ideas or links, please contribute. If I can get a decent front page up and running in time (before school starts), then I will start a course on Steve Keen's money circuit model in Sage to get a bit of original content going. Rf 21:23, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I've gone and updated the main page. Perhaps the talk page up to here should be archived, since a lot of the comments are no longer relevant? Rf 08:14, 21 August 2011 (UTC)