Social Victorians/People/Dupplin

Also Known As

 * Family name: Hay-Drummond, also often shortened to Hay
 * Earl of Kinnoull or Kinnoul
 * Archibald FitzRoy George Hay, 13th Earl of Kinnoull (30 January 1897 – 7 February 1916)
 * Viscount Dupplin is the courtesy title of the eldest son and heir of the Earl of Kinnoull (Peerage of Scotland)
 * George Robert Hay-Drummond, Viscount Dupplin ( – 18 February 1866)
 * Archibald FitzRoy George Hay, Viscount Dupplin (1886 – 30 January 1897)
 * Edmund Hay-Drummond, Viscount Dupplin (30 January 1897 – 1903)
 * Agnes Blanche Marie Hay-Drummond, Marie Hay

Hon. Claude Hay

 * Secretary, Primrose League (its first)
 * Member of Parliament, Conservative, for Hoxton (1900–1910)
 * Manager, "Hongkong Insurance Coy." (as of 1892)
 * Member, Freemason, Saint Leonard Lodge (initiation 3 February 1892)

Sir Alfred Cooper

 * Surgeon-in-Ordinary to H.R.H. The Duke of Edinburgh

Timeline
1871 October 4, George Robert Hay-Drummond and Lady Agnes Cecil Emmeline Duff married.

1876, George Robert Hay-Drummond and Lady Agnes Hay-Drummond divorced.

1876 August 5, Lady Agnes Hay-Drummond and Herbert Flower married.

1880 October 28, Lady Constance Hay-Drummond and Walter Henry Hadow married.

1882 July 4, Lady Agnes Hay-Drummond Flower and Sir Alfred Cooper married.

1890 January 12, Hon. Alistair George Hay-Drummond and Hon. Camilla Dagmar Violet Greville married.

1897 July 2, Friday, Hon. Marie Hay attended the Duchess of Devonshire's fancy-dress ball at Devonshire House, as did the Hon. Claude Hay and Mrs. Hay.

1903 January 24, Archibald FitzRoy George Hay-Drummond, 13th Earl of Kinnoull and Florence Mary Darell married.

1903 February 21, Marie (Agnes Blanche Marie) Hay-Drummond and Herbert Baron von Hindenburg married.



Hon. Marie Hay
Marie (Agnes Blanche Marie) Hay-Drummond (at 682) attended the Duchess of Devonshire's fancy-dress ball.

Lafayette's portrait of "(Agnes Blanche) Marie (née Hay-Drummond), Baroness von Hindenburg as Mademoiselle Andrée de Taverney A.D. 1775" in costume is photogravure #227 in the album presented to the Duchess of Devonshire and now in the National Portrait Gallery. The printing on the portrait says, "The Hon. Marie Hay as Mademoiselle Andrée de Taverney A.D. 1775."

Agnes Blanche Marie Hay-Drummond or Marie Hay was not mentioned in any press reports, but her portrait is in the commemorative album of portraits.

Andrée de Taverney is the main character in a novel by Alexander Dumas pére set during the French Revolution. The original novel is Joseph Balsamo: Memories of a Physician, but because it is so long, it is often cut into two parts, the second of which is Andrée de Taverney: Or, The Downfall of French Monarchy, or sometimes The Mesmerist's Victim. Andrée is a daughter of a Baron, whose tragic life begins when she is raped and then loses her child to his father when she refuses to marry him. She becomes a lady in waiting at the court of Marie Antoinette and the personal friend of the queen, whom she remains loyal to, even though it costs her her life.

Hon. Claude Hay and Mrs. Hay
The Hon. Claude Hay (at 565) and Mrs. Hay (at 566) are reported as having attended the ball (as "the Hon. Claude and Mrs. Hay), but Mrs. Hay is not Mrs. Claude Hay because, according to the 1911 census, he was single, and she cannot be his mother, who died in 1895. The Gentlewoman says "Lady C Hay."

Demographics

 * Nationality: Scots

Family

 * George Hay-Drummond, 12th Earl of Kinnoull (16 July 1827 – 30 January 1897)
 * Lady Emily Blanche Charlotte Somerset (26 January 1828 – 27 January 1895)
 * George Robert Hay-Drummond, Viscount Dupplin (27 May 1849 – 10 March 1886)
 * Lady Constance Blanche Louisa Hay-Drummond (15 August 1851 – 21 Dec 1931)
 * Hon. Francis George Hay-Drummond (29 May 1853 – 11 Sep 1884)
 * Archibald FitzRoy George Hay-Drummond, 13th Earl of Kinnoull (20 June 1855 – 7 Feb 1916)
 * Lady Celia Evangeline Constance Hay-Drummond (9 June 1857 – 18 May 1868)
 * Hon. Alistair George Hay-Drummond (18 April 1861 – 15 April 1929 )
 * Hon. Claude George Hay-Drummond (24 June 1862 – 24 Oct 1920)
 * Lady Muriel Henrietta Constance Hay-Drummond (14 August 1863 – 2 January 1927)


 * Lady Agnes Cecil Emmeline Duff (18 May 1852 – 11 January 1925)
 * George Robert Hay-Drummond, Viscount Dupplin (27 May 1849 – 10 March 1886)
 * 1) Marie (Agnes Blanche Marie) Hay-Drummond (6 December 1873 – 13 December 1938)
 * Herbert Flower (1853 – 30 December 1881)
 * Sir Alfred Cooper (28 January 1838 – 3 March 1908)
 * 1) Stephanie Agnes Cooper (5 September 1883 – 9 December 1918)
 * 2) Hermione Mary Louise Cooper (1885 – 1923)
 * 3) Sybil Mary Cooper (26 November 1886 – 3 January 1927)
 * 4) Alfred Duff Cooper, 1st Viscount Norwich (22 February 1890 – 1 January 1954)


 * Marie (Agnes Blanche Marie) Hay-Drummond (6 December 1873 – 13 December 1938)
 * Herbert Baron von Hindenburg (1 April 1872 – 31 July 1956)


 * Archibald FitzRoy George Hay-Drummond, 13th Earl of Kinnoull (20 June 1855 – 7 February 1916)
 * Josephine Maria Hawke ( – 2 December 1900)
 * Edmund Alfred Rollo George Hay-Drummond, Viscount Dupplin (12 November 1879 – 30 May 1903)
 * Florence Mary Darell ( – 2 July 1941)
 * Lady Elizabeth Mary Hay-Drummond (14 Dec 1903 – )
 * Hon. Edward Hay-Drummond (29 Jun 1906 – )
 * Hon. FitzRoy Hay-Drummond (29 Jun 1906 – )
 * Lady Margaret Florence Grace Hay-Drummond (2 Oct 1907 – )

Relations

 * Hon. Alistair George Hay-Drummond and Hon. Camilla Dagmar Violet Greville were married, so he was the son-in-law of Lady Violet Greville. They were no longer married by 1909 and both remarried after that, so they must have divorced.
 * Lady Agnes Hay-Drummond Flower and Sir Alfred Cooper married in 1882, so Cooper was Marie Hay-Drummond's stepfather at the time of the ball. Albert Edward, Prince of Wales was one of his patients. Cooper was a prominent surgeon specializing in venereal disease and was familiar with the aristocracy. His caricature portrait (above right) by Leslie Ward ("Spy") in the 30 December 1897 issue of Vanity Fair is Number 699 in its "Men of the Day" series.

Notes and Questions

 * 1) Marie Hay-Drummond was single at the time of the ball, not marrying until 1903.
 * 2) The Earl of Kinnoull at the time of the ball was Archibald FitzRoy George Hay-Drummond, 13th Earl of Kinnoull.
 * 3) Lady Constance Hay-Drummond married in 1880, so Lady C. Hay (as identified by the Gentlewoman) is probably not Constance. It would be surprising for Lady C. Hay to be the Hon. Camilla Greville Hay, as her honorific would be Hon. rather than Lady, although newspapers did make mistakes on honorifics sometimes. One person likely to be called Lady Hay might be Florence, Countess Kinnoull. The Lady Cecilia Hay was a schooner that went in and out of ports in the U.K. during this time carrying cargo. The daughter of the 19th Earl of Erroll, Lady Cecilia Leila Hay married Captain George Allan Webbe on 31 October 1883 but apparently was called Lady Cecilia Hay after that, for example in 1893 in newspaper articles about charitable work. Did the Hon. Claude Hay and Lady Cecilia Hay know each other?
 * 4) The Hon. Claude Hay died in 1920 in Sebastopol, Crimea. In the National Probate Calendar, his effects were £633 10s. 3d. (so approximately £78,000).