Social Victorians/People/Hartmann

Also Known As

 * Family name: Hartmann
 * Sometimes spelled as Hartman

Nationality

 * James Hartmann, German
 * Eliza Emma Steiner, from Munster, Alsace

James and Eliza Hartmann

 * Hyndburn House, Church
 * Saltram, Devonshire
 * Grosvenor-square, London
 * Berkeley-square (Eliza Hartmann only)
 * White Lodge (Eliza Hartmann only)
 * White Lodge (Eliza Hartmann only)

Frederick Hartmann

 * Sandleford Priory (1892)

Family

 * Mr. James Hartmann, (c. 1827 – c. 1 March 1887)
 * Eliza Emma Steiner Hartmann (c. 1840 – )
 * Frederick Hartmann ( – 1921)
 * daughter (died young)


 * Frederick Hartmann ( – 1921)
 * Constance Mary Lister ( – 1950)
 * James Hartmann (after 1892 – )



Relations

 * Frederick Hartmann's mother was close to the family of the Prince of Wales and likely the person who attended the Duchess of Devonshire's 1897 fancy-dress ball.
 * Frederick Hartmann's cousin was Madlle. de Jancourt ; Eliza Hartmann's sister was Victoria, Marquise de Jancourt.
 * Constance Mary Lister's parents were Sir Thomas Villiers Lister (1832–1902) and Fanny Harriet Coryton ( – 1875).

Mrs. James Hartmann

 * Albert Edward, Prince of Wales

Friends

 * Mr. James Baillie of Dochfour, best man at their wedding

Frederick Hartmann

 * F. Steiner and Company, Church and Church Dyeworks (1892)
 * Crawshawbooth printworks (1892)
 * Irwell Springs Works at Bacup (1892)

Timeline
1892 April 20, Wednesday, Frederick Hartmann and Constance Mary Lister married. In the standard announcement of the upcoming wedding, the Northern Daily Telegraph says, "Mr Frederick Hartmann, of the firm of F. Steiner and Company, Church, will be married on April 20th to Miss Lister, a member of a well-known York family. the employés [sic] of the Church Dyeworks intend presenting Mr Hartmann with a set of silver punch-bowls. The centre bowl will have a holding capacity of three gallons."

The Morning Post published a description of the wedding, though not a very long one.

More on the punchbowls:"HANDSOME AND COSTLY MARRIAGE PRESENTS.—The workpeople at Messrs. Steiner's Church Mills have presented a set of handsome punch bowls, inlaid with gold, and which have cost £100, to Mr. Hartmann as a marriage present, he having on Wednesday, the 20th instant, been married to Miss Constance Lister. The largest bowl will hold three gallons, and both silver bowls are richly chased and fluted in the Grecian style, are fitted with massive side handles, which are connected to the bowls with finely-modelled representations of lions' heads, and each bowl stands on an ebony stand. The large one bears the following inscription:— 'Presented to Frederick Hartmann, Esq., by the employes [sic] of Steiner and Co., on the occasion of his marriage, 20th April, 1892.' The monogram 'F.H.' is also inscribed on each bowl. Wednesday, the wedding day, was a grand time for the workpeople, as they all had a day's holiday and a day's wage given them, and a trip and treat is also to be given them. The marriage took place in London. The other workpeople at Crawshawbooth printworks, and also at Irwell Springs Works at Bacup, are subscribing handsome presents."

1897 July 2, Mrs. Hartmann attended the Duchess of Devonshire's fancy-dress ball.

1897 October 4, Monday, Albert Edward, Prince of Wales visited the Hartmanns at Clarendon Park, which they were renting from Sir Frederick Hervey-Bathurst:"The Prince of Wales went yesterday afternoon to Salisbury, where his Royal Highness will be the guest of Mr. and Mrs. Frederick Hartmann, of Clarendon Park. The visit is of quite a private character, and consequently no formal civic welcome was arranged, but crowds of people assembled at the railway station, and gave the Prince an enthusiastic greeting. Major-General Sir Stanley Clarke was in attendance. The guests invited to meet his Royal Highness include the Marquise de Galliffet, Viscountess Coke, Viscount Valletort, Earl Carrington, Sir Charles Hall, Q.C., M.P., Mrs. Hartmann, and Mr. and Mrs. William James. Partridges are exceedingly plentiful on the estate, and there is every prospect of capital sport during the Prince's three days' visit. Clarendon Park, which is the seat of Sir Frederick Hervey-Bathurst, the well-known ex-Guardsman and famous cricketer, and is rented by Mr. Hartmann, is near the ruins of a famous Royal palace. In the twelfth, thirteenth, and fourteenth centuries the place was often used as a kingly residence, and within its walls the famous Constitutions of Clarendon were drawn up in the reign of Henry II. Some 'ruins' of that ancient palace still stand in the woods at the part called King's Manor."

1909 September 27, Mrs. Eliza Hartmann was bankrupt. The Singapore Straits Times says, As a young woman she was a notable figure in Devonshire; she married a German, who had the secret of the Turkey red dye and made a great fortune, it was supposed, from the manufacture of Turkey twill. ...

Mrs. Hartmann was a frequent visitor at Sandringham. ... The report of Mrs. Hartmann's failure will come as a surprise. A rough statement of her affairs prepared for Monday's meeting showed unsecured liabilities of £43,396 and fully secured claims for £13,384. The assets amounted to £14,318. The deficiency disclosed was therefore £29,083. The Official Receiver said he should require a committee of inspection, which was accordingly elected.

Costume at the Duchess of Devonshire's 2 July 1897 Fancy-dress Ball
At the Duchess of Devonshire's fancy-dress ball, Mrs. Hartmann (at 505) was dressed as Madame Sans-Gêne in an "Empire gown of white satin, and blush roses."

Notes and Questions

 * 1) Madame Sans-Gêne is a play by Victorien Sardou and Émile Moreau that premiered at the Théâtre du Vaudeville in Paris in October 1893. The first English translation produced in Britain starred Ellen Terry as Catherine and Henry Irving as Napoleon in April 1897 at the Lyceum Theatre; Terry was 30 at this time, so Constance Hartmann would have been closer to her age than Eliza Hartmann. If Constance Hartmann attended the ball, then where was Frederick Hartmann? Was he just not mentioned?
 * 2) Given her closeness to the Princes of Wales's family, Frederick Hartmann's mother seems to be the most likely Mrs. Hartmann at the ball, although the Prince of Wales did visit Constance and Frederick Hartmann at their estate later in 1897. Here is the description about how close Eliza Hartmann was to the Royal family:"Mrs. Hartmann, to whom the King has given the use of White Lodge for her life, is (says the Onlooker) the mother of Mr. Frederick Hartmann, who is very well known in London society, and who married a daughter of Sir Villiers Lister. Mrs. Hartmann is a great favorite with the Royal family, and most of its members call her by her Christian name."More about her because of her taking White Lodge:"Mrs. Hartmann, who has taken White Lodge, Richmond Park, on lease, is enormously wealthy, is reputed to have the best chef in London, and is noted for her admirable dinners, at which all the most distinguished people in social London are to be met. Her son, Mr. Frederick Hartmann, married the second daughter of Sir Villiers Lister."