Talk:Motivation and emotion/Book/2013/Extrinsic motivation

Linking to Intrinsic Motivation
Hi there,

I've noticed that you've quite often referred to intrinsic motivation throughout your chapter, so I've put the link to that chapter in your 'see also' section. I've done the same for your chapter on the intrinsic motivation page. Hope that's ok!

Good luck with it all.

NatKat88 (discuss • contribs) 03:48, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Incentives
Hi,

I came across this whilst browsing motivation this morning on youtube, and i thought it might be useful to your topic. Its a Ted talk called 'The puzzle of motivation' by Dan Pink. It does contain an interesting section around 03.29 about incentives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrkrvAUbU9Y

Tovey ally (discuss • contribs) 23:28, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

General
Hi.

It looks like you have an outline for the theoretical side of extrinsic motivation.

Maybe you could use your other headings to discuss the practical application of this theory. How it can be used as a motivational technique in specific domains of peoples lives.

I was reading the abstract of this case study which may be useful for generating some ideas, the link is below: 

--Bridgiedidge (discuss • contribs) 02:33, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello Again!

I am writing my chapter on workplace motivation with a focus on Self Determination Theory (SDT) and I am finding it to cross over nicely with alot of the concepts in your own chapter. I found this article on google scholar which really helped me conceptualise the idea of Extrinsic Motivation and particularly it's place in SDT. Although the title suggests it is relevant to a work setting, there is a good foundation of some of the principles you are looking into. Hopefully it can help you out. This is the Reference"

Gagné, M., & Deci, E. L. (2005). Self‐determination theory and work motivation. Journal of Organizational behavior, 26(4), 331-362. http://www.langleygroup.com.au/images/Deci---2005---Self-determination-theory-and-work-motivation-.pdf

Goodluck with the remainder of your chapter! --Bridgiedidge (discuss • contribs) 20:42, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggested articles (: Eengleh1 (discuss • contribs) 08:40, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Possibly helpful article
Hey there, I came across this article that might be useful/interesting. It suggests that extrinsic rewards are less effective the greater the visibility of a prosocial act. This is in particular relation to monetary incentives and charitable acts (eg. blood donation) and why it doesn't work. Good luck with the rest of your chapter!

Ariely, D., Bracha, A., & Meier, S. (2009). Doing good or doing well? Image motivation and monetary incentives in behaving prosocially. The American Economic Review, 99(1), 544-555. Ashkrance (discuss • contribs) 06:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello! I saw your post on moodle, and I must agree that you have a difficult task with the major point of extrinsic undermining intrinsic. I feel like the best way to overcome this is to not think about it too much and focus on some specific examples of scenarios to which extrinsic motivation can be applied. I think someone said in your discussion forum about usingit to achieve short term outcomes. I would put all of my emphasis here and then refer the reader to the intrinsic motivation chapter for longer lasting effects. I think having the application section is a really good idea. I hope this helps a little. Goodluck, you can do it! :) --Bridgiedidge (discuss • contribs) 22:38, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

An addition on your extrinsic motivation warning
Hi there. I just thought I'd bring a little more detail to that particular topic. Edward Deci did an article a few years prior to that one called "effects of externally mediated tewards on intrinsic behaviour" (1971). In this article, he tests two hypotheses and explains that while monetary and reward incentives can interfere with and cause problems with intrinsic motivation, verbal encouragement as an extrinsic motivator is quite intrinsically motivating. I don't want to go ahead and make changes in your article, but I thought I'd highlight this for you to have a closer look. I've also found other research where extrinsic motivators like providing a rationale can creat introjection and identification, thereby creating some intrinsic motivation. Expect to see it tonight.

Thanks G

I was actually working on getting the concepts you've brought up into other aspects of my chapter, but thank you for your assistance (: Eengleh1 (discuss • contribs) 06:00, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, My chapter is motivation to volunteer and I briefly touch on extrinsic motivation, just wondering if I could link your chapter to mine? Enjoying reading your chapter by the way :)good work! Bilbo Baggins (discuss • contribs) 05:54, 2 November 2013 (UTC) Of course you can link to my chapter. No worries (: Eengleh1 (discuss • contribs) 06:00, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

u3054791"s Feedback
Hi this seems like a great chapter! It's easy to follow and the layout is great! As also mentioned here and seen on your moodle post it would be difficult to apply extrinsic motivation as a positive. It could be that extrinsic motivation can also encourage intrinsic motivation. For example having the motivation to complete a task can become more intrinsic with the presence of an extrinsic motivational factor, such as punishment. As you say, operant conditioning and the use of rewards decreases intrinsic motivation, but hopefully this has helped if only a little bit. Here is a article which better explains what I was trying to relay:

Dysvik, A., & Kuvaas, B. (2013). Intrinsic and extrinsic motivation as predictors of work effort: The moderating role of achievement goals. British Journal Of Social Psychology, 52(3), 412-430.

Access it from sage journals here |Extrinsic motivation as predictors of work effort

Otherwise great work :) Also I mention briefly these types of motivation in my chapter on protection motivation, could I link to yours? Cheers! U3054791 (discuss • contribs) 07:41, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Of course you can link to my page. Thank you for the article link as well. Cheers! Eengleh1 (discuss • contribs) 07:59, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

A few (hopefully reassuring) words
Hi there,

Thank you for the resource you posted on my page (Intrinsic motivation). I saw your Moodle post a few days back, and, I just want to say that (after just now having a look at your page): you have more than found a way of turning extrinsic motivation into a self help topic. I imagine this would have been tough to do, so really you have smashed it. Especially as your chapter topic question asks "how can extrinsic motivation be effectively used". I think your "warning about EM" title is a smart inclusion, too. AND the finding that states that adolescent friendship formation can be used as a method to gain acceptance from parents and teachers is an extremely interesting piece of food for thought - so thanks for sharing that. --Jacki Ball (discuss • contribs) 04:20, 3 November 2013 (UTC)