Talk:Motivation and emotion/Book/2015/Group sport motivation

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Hi Micah

This is shaping out to be a very good and well thought-out chapter. I like the Messi mentions (makes it a bit more interesting), and I think I get what you are doing with the fictional example, though I am sure there are no shortages of team-directed Messi quotes. I think you’re chapter is looking comprehensive, but an added suggestion if you’re looking for more, could be to look at culture/patriotism/locality as a motivator. For example, here is an article on home advantage in football http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17461390903009133. Hope this helps, and good luck. Hayley U3017556 (discuss • contribs) 04:42, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I think it reads really well and that you are being very comprehensive. A few suggestions, I think a few of the sentences are a little long and may need to be broken up. Could I suggest using a little color as it might brighten it up a little as well. But most of all in the test what do the results mean??? 1 out of 3 or 3 out of 3 there is no explanation. U116040- Sat 10 October 2015.

--David James Stevenson (discuss • contribs) 01:39, 23 September 2015 (UTC) I really find your contents page really simple, well-thought out and structured. It will be interesting to see your page as it develops.

This looks like the makings of a great chapter. And the addition of the quiz is fantastic. One thing I did note was your use of capitals in the introduction (Fifa should be all capitals FIFA - nit-picky, I know). Can't wait to see future drafts and the end result! Rose1610 (discuss • contribs) 02:20, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi! Looks really interesting, I love the example of Messi at the beginning, it's a good opener to the page. The quiz is interactive too, but just wanted to point out that there is a spelling mistake with the first question. It says 'appraoch' instead. Keep up the good work. --Bt1718 (discuss • contribs) 3:11, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

This looks like a very comprehensive and interesting take on the topic,nice work! Perhaps you could include a section on the practical application of this research, i.e ways to enhance motivation in group sport participation.U3100474 (discuss • contribs) 00:22, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

--uu3148421 (discuss • contribs) 04:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC) Your book chapter is very straight forward. That allows readers to understand the topic almost immediately. Make sure you add examples of need for achievement and affliation after you explain the difference between the! Goodjob!

This looks like an interesting topic! Personally, I'm not a huge sports fan so I'm very interested to find out why people want to participate in group sport. Your layout is well thought out and easy to follow. I like that you've included a section quiz as I think this forces the reader to actively read the content. Have you come across the Kohler effect in group sport motivation? The Kohler effect occurs when an an individual performs better on a task when they are part of a group as opposed to doing it as an individual. Here's an article from 2012 that you can have a look at http://zh9bf5sp6t.scholar.serialssolutions.com/?sid=google&auinit=KA&aulast=Osborn&atitle=The+K%C3%B6hler+effect:+Motivation+gains+and+losses+in+real+sports+groups.&id=doi:10.1037/a0026887&title=Sport,+exercise,+and+performance+psychology&volume=1&issue=4&date=2012&spage=242&issn=2157-3905 --U3046579 (discuss • contribs) 08:06, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback! I had not heard about the Kohler effect so I will read up on it now, thanks! Ccgmjb (discuss • contribs) 06:47, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Hey there. Chapter is coming along really well. One thing I have thought about and observed is that you don't have reasons people might not what to participate in sport for example, bad past experience from school or low fitness? --David James Stevenson (discuss • contribs) 09:59, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I read over the chapter and it is really well set out. To be honest I can not think of anything to add or change at this time. I will definitely look again soon and hopefully I can help more! Good job though its a really interesting topic and the set out is extremely clear. ---u3079526 - Rhiannon Simpson---

Hey, I think your fictional example at the start is really good and straight away going into defining motivation and linking it into the topic of sports. When you go into talking about extrinsic motivation, be careful with talking about amotivation as you have talked about it in a bit of detail earlier in the page... Good layout and chosen images; quiz at the end is a good touch too :) U3097090 (discuss • contribs) 08:47, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi there, it's really starting to come along nicely and I like what you've added! I noticed you added a section about benefits of group sport participation which is great (as I mentioned in my previous comment I'm not a big sports fan) but I am actually also interested to know the benefits of being part of a group sport at a young age. I thought I would look it up and found some interesting articles about group sport participation in adolescents and the correlation with academic outcome.

http://zh9bf5sp6t.scholar.serialssolutions.com/?sid=google&auinit=CK&aulast=Fox&atitle=Physical+activity+and+sports+team+participation:+Associations+with+academic+outcomes+in+middle+school+and+high+school+students&id=doi:10.1111/j.1746-1561.2009.00454.x&title=Journal+of+school+health&volume=80&issue=1&date=2010&spage=31&issn=0022-4391

http://zh9bf5sp6t.scholar.serialssolutions.com/?sid=google&auinit=DI&aulast=Rees&atitle=Sports+participation+and+academic+performance:+Evidence+from+the+National+Longitudinal+Study+of+Adolescent+Health&id=doi:10.1016/j.econedurev.2010.04.008&title=Economics+of+education+review&volume=29&issue=5&date=2010&spage=751&issn=0272-7757

--U3046579 (discuss • contribs) 10:32, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

The chapter looks fantastic. I could not find anything I would change or develop and your writing seems excellent. The only thing I noticed is if you search your chapter you 4354 which just makes the word count, but..... if you copy and past top to bottom as outline says you have 4827. Maybe we need to clarify exactly the determination of word count, as I have also noticed tables are un-included in search account. Again looks absolutely great man sorry to be picky but I wouldn't wan you to loose marks for anything, it looks like you have worked incredibly hard and it has come together perfectly. David James Stevenson (discuss • contribs) 08:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Micah Thank you for providing feedback with regard to my bookchapter (topic 41 Flow and Mastery), which was very helpful. I have had the pleasure of reading your bookchapter and would like to offer you the following comments by way of feedback:

The use of links in your opening paragraph was very useful in filling in gaps in my knowledge regarding the example you used. According to another wikipage I found via google, football is the most played team sport in Australia. You may wish to include a hyperlink to the wiki page on football in Australia? I like your use of text boxes and figure 1 is very dynamic, which adds interest.

Your contents table is structured very clearly and corresponds to logical groupings of the subject matter presented.

Under the 'overview' heading, you may wish to consider including links for words such as: 'groups', 'team' and 'basic motivations' that help define these terms. You wrote: '...highest elite level, to young children kicking around...'. You may wish to consider: '...to young children playing sport on a Saturday...'.

Under the 'what is motivation' heading, your use of links for movere and Reeve were well placed.

Under the 'theories for group sport...' heading, you may wish to consider linking the word theories to a wiki page that defines what a theory is. The same applies under the next heading in respect of the word 'taxonomy'.

Under the paragraph commencing 'Amotivation is described', you may wish to consider your use of colons and semi-colons when creating a list. Alternatively, it may be useful to present such a list in the form of dot points or a table.

Figure 3 was very helpful in clearly placing a number of concepts in relation to SDT. Just above figure 3, you wrote '...The three needs or autonomy...', consider instead: 'The three needs of autonomy...'

In the paragraph commencing 'The component of autonomy symbolises...', the word 'research' in the second sentence may benefit from a reference or explanatory hyperlink.

There is a list at the end of the first paragraph under the heading 'competency', which you may wish to consider presenting as dot points to increase the clarity of the presentation. The next paragraph contains a reference to surfing and golf, both of which may benefit to links to webpages outlining what these sports entail (much as you have done for 'soccer' and 'basketball' in the next paragraph.

In the para beginning 'The needs for autonomy, competence, and relatedness...', you wrote: 'SDT theory...', consider deleting the word theory as it is excess.

The first para under the heading 'achievement goal theory' begins by establishing the acronym AGT, however later in the same para the words in full are used for some reason, perhaps continue to use AGT.

Figure 5 was missing a picture when I viewed your chapter, perhaps check it is there.

The hyperlink used for 'mastery goal' was helpful and the figure 6 was an excellent choice.

Under the heading 'external motivational factors' consider an intext citation for the second sentence. In the next para, consider inserting the word 'context' between the phrases '...the socio-environmental...' and '...that influences...' as the sentence may flow better. In the same para, consider using AGT instead of the full name as you have already introduced the acronym previously.

The para beginning 'A significant study grounded in SDT and AGT...' had an excellent use of research findings and helpful hyperlinks. The end of the first para under the heading 'social loafing' also had an effective summing up of research implications. You may wish to consider making reference to areas that future research could/should focus on. You may also wish to link the phrases 'perceived loafing' and 'social compensation' to web pages that describe these terms in more detail, such as you effectively did with the illustration of individual effort and conjunctive tasks under the 'kohler effect' heading.

The 'TEAM formula' was very informative, if not your own formulation, perhaps consider a reference or link. Having a link to a quiz instead of setting the whole thing out was a creative/sleek way of presenting the quiz. Your list of references looked impressive.

Under the external links section, perhaps consider a link to www.footballaustralia.com.au as it relates to your major example and has useful information for those wanting to get involved at various levels.

Thanks again for taking the time to review my chapter on flow and for providing useful feedback. I enjoyed reading your chapter and found it informative.

Kind regards

Daniel u118741

Hey, Your book chapter looks really great and informative. You should add a box for your multimedia which can be added with this code:. I also like how you've placed photos throughout your information giving it a splash of colour throughout. --U3096825 (discuss • contribs) 12:32, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

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