Talk:Motivation and emotion/Textbook/Motivation/Motivational toxicity

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Hi there! Your chapter is well on its way towards producing a very rich and organised resource, so well done. I was wondering if you could have a look and comment on my chapter (student motivation) as I think I've finished (but often there is a lot more that needs to be done). Any feedback would be greatful received. Cheers, Bec (your tutorial studybuddy) and wiki user: U118827

Hi. I really liked your chapter. (Although, it does not look to be complete, i.e., summary/conclusion). I was wonderring whether you should have a specific definition for motivational toxicity, next to the definition of motivation, and maybe differentiate it from addiction. Also, does the dopamine deficiency theory have any relevance to the reward deficiency syndrome? All in all, Your writing was really clear and easy to read. Thank you for your feedback. AlEdwardson 12:34, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Great to see helping each other out. I agree with the AlEdwardson comment to just do a little more on making sure you have a clear definition of emotional toxicity - maybe even in its own highlighted box. And how it is different to addiction is an excellent point. Other things: -- Jtneill - Talk - c 02:17, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) I've indented the references and adjusted the heading levels
 * 2) I suggest bigger pictures - at least 250px
 * 3) Add captions to your images (see the brain image as an example)
 * 4) Excellent work with the Wikipedia links. To improve them further, I've edited the introduction to adjust the external link format to the internal link format e.g., goals. Also note that it is only necessary to add such links once, on first mention. Afterwards just refer to goals etc. without a link.
 * 5) The reward system and how it is governed - excellent, well explained, easy to understand etc. maybe add a relevant diagram?
 * 6) Operant conditioning and the reward system - excellent, solid section, well written. I wonder whether motivational toxicity can also explain non-drug addictions? It could be worth considering another section here to consider this.
 * 7) APA style: Subsequent citations within paragraphs don't need the year e.g., Adinoff (2004). But later, just refer to Adinoff (in the same paragraph).
 * 8) Check were -> where
 * 9) Specific brain areas and their roles in the motivation of addiction
 * 10) A brain diagram would help here - see what you can find on Wiki commons or on related Wikipedia articles.
 * 11) This section was pretty dense - maybe put it in broader context here. Are you suggesting that addictive drugs cause damage to these areas - or perhaps pre-existing problems in these areas predisposes one to addiction? (e.g., is there a genetic link in addiction?). Or perhaps both. i.e., what is the big question here? How is motivational toxic related to brain structure and localisation?
 * 12) Grammar check: individuals -> individual's
 * 13) Dopamine and the pleasure pathways - good section - maybe add image and/or link to the WP article (could be worth repeating the link here at the start or in a feature box)
 * 14) The mesolimbic dopamine pathway - this is good info, but again is quite technical/neurological. Put it in some more context.
 * 15) Other things - can one overcome motivational toxicity (e.g., detoxify?) How? Are some people more vulnerable neurochemically to motivational toxicity (addictive personality?)? What is the relative role of genetics/environment? How can motivational toxicity be measured - just because someone has a neurological vulnerable will that person necessarily become addicted? Why or why not?
 * 16) Any quotes or case studies etc. of people with motivational toxicity? (Perhaps also make clear that this isn't a disorder per se but rather describes a neuro-motivational description of the reason for addiction.

Thanks for the feedback and tidy up - go easy people! Obviously the page is far from finished, that's why there arent more pics and links as yet, but there will be! I thought the definition of motivational toxicity (MT) was clear - when addiction takes control away from normal motivation systems - but then I've been absorbed in readings on it so maybe I wouldnt see it if it bit me on the nose! Anyway I've reworded it so I hope it's better now.

I've found it hard to find info on MT, the Esch article is the only one I've found actually using the term MT - it's obviously not commonly used. I havent come across any information on MT in non-drug addictions so I'm not sure if its relevant without a substance but I'll keep looking and see what I can find.

I'm still reworking the brain and dopamine sections, I'm planning to put in a brain map there but atm I'm trying to get make the technical info easier to understand without losing the details. I havent covered genetic links or similar because I assume those will be covered in addiction, I'm only looking at the neurobiology underlying the transition into dependence.

And I havent even started on the conclusion or what can be done about toxic motivation yet, but I'll get there! I'm pretty sure MT's not a disorder, rather a theory on the neurological underpinnings of addiction motivation, I havent found anything suggesting a separate disorder. Thanks for the help and ideas and please check back in a while when I've done more, Ta! M.Sell 04:46, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

-- Jtneill - Talk - c 13:10, 13 December 2010 (UTC)