Talk:Should the public be forced to take vaccines?

Categorizing
I think this would also fit the category of essays on socialism. If you think so too, I'll add it to that category. AP295 (discuss • contribs) AP295 (discuss • contribs) 02:04, 15 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, go ahead and add the category. Thanks. Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 23:37, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Why question in the title?
Article entitled "Should the public be forced to take vaccines?" would be better suited for the Wikidebate format. Since the present article, rather than examining arguments for both sides, seem to be for this in affirmative: "The public should not be forced to take vaccines", with no question mark. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 14:18, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


 * You want it for the title of a wikidebate, I take it then? This is why wikiversity ought to have a page in mainspace for each user to organize their own material under, and then perhaps a separate page for wikidebates and pages for other general content so everything doesn't end up in mainspace. Wikiversity is collaborative, but really each resource does have a primary author. AP295 (discuss • contribs) 00:14, 8 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I'll move it if you like, but I'd like the title to stay the same. Perhaps we can have a page essays in mainspace, and then each user can have their own subpage so that this page appears as essays/AP295/Should the public be forced to take vaccines? Something must be done before mainspace ends up a rat nest with people contending over titles like people bid up catchy domain names. I'd first rather have some general consensus on what's to be done about the namespace problem though. It would be great if someone other than me would make a colloquium topic about it. AP295 (discuss • contribs) 00:21, 8 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Aside from renaming the essay, how else do you think this should be resolved? Really I'd just like to group my essays under a page AP295/ in mainspace but I'm not sure if this is allowed at present. I think it's a good title for a debate and I don't want to keep you from using it that way. Nonetheless I still think it's a fine title for my essay as well. I've mentioned similar the issue of namespaces several times but others seem disinclined to favor policy changes that I suggest so maybe someone else should be saying it too. Another option would be to have a page essays in mainspace, and then have my essays in essays/AP295/... but I don't want to be the only user who follows this convention. At some point I might organize my material into "courses" but at the moment it's not quite there yet. AP295 (discuss • contribs) 03:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @AP295: I do not currently press the issue. You have multiple options: 1) do nothing; 2) rename the page to Should the public be forced to take vaccines?/Essays/AP295, which would follow a proposal recently made by someone else (not me) in one of the discussion forums; 3) rename the page to Should the public be forced to take vaccines?/AP295, since this format was not objected to and sees some use; 4) turn the page into a debate, which also solves the problem. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:48, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I've thought about it and decided to keep the name. I will eventually take it out of mainspace though. I think inviting the reader to consider a question will probably tend not to put off viewers where a statement will. In other words, it's a rhetorical decision. I try to keep my essays firmly in the realm of dialectic, but as I explain in Socialism/Bipartisan fraud, people likely have very specific reactions to partisan statements. If I make the statement right off the bat, nobody will open the essay, because so many people already have firm beliefs. The media can impose their propaganda upon the public, but I must pique the reader's interest, and a bit of ambiguity in the title isn't going to hurt anything. Believe it or not, I do want people to think for themselves and believe that if they do, they'll arrive at similar conclusions. AP295 (discuss • contribs) 03:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)