Talk:WikiJournal of Medicine/Table of pediatric medical conditions and findings named after foods

Review 1
{{review|version = https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Table_of_pediatric_medical_conditions_and_findings_named_after_foods&oldid=1287071|date = 2015-01-03
 * reviewer = Mikael Häggström
 * Q=Q38381954

Formatting
I made some format changes (as seen in [article history] for Jan 1, 2015).

I would like the explanation for those entries with an asterisk (*) to be a bit more specific, since it apparently both comments on inheritance and applicability of the conditions and findings, but does not distinguish whether its usage in the text refers to one or the other meaning. If these comments should be kept, I suggest adding a separate note-list, such as with the following tags: The code for the note list above the reference section will then be:
 * for those that have autosomal recessive interitance
 * for those that may not be applicable in individuals with more pigmented skin

==Notes== Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 17:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Inclusion/Exclusion criterion
I believe there needs to be some statement of what is excluded from the list. For example, the table doesn't include food allergies, food poisonings or malnutrition (by excessive intake of a certain kind of food), which can all theoretically be combined with almost any type of food, making the list too exhaustive. With this in mind, I think "milk anemia" may fall outside the scope as well, unless there is a particular reason for including this one and not the others. The other way around, some inclusion criterion would be appropriate. Judging from the existing entries, it seems a somewhat common denominator is that the condition or finding has a resemblance of the food. Again, this is not really being applicable to "milk anemia", and not really for "tumbler sign" either. Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 20:41, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Evidence
All the entries appear to be cited by articles in proper medical journals, and they all appear to be used in medical literature otherwise as well judging from web searches. I currently find no further issue on any point given in [JMCP Peer Review Checklist and Guidelines].Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 16:23, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Utility for Wikipedia
I think this list deserves a place in Wikipedia similarly to the other lists given at Medical eponyms.Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 16:23, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Permission from other journal
The table is included in the article in Malta Medical Journal, and I have gotten permission from them to reproduce the material here, on the condition that it is properly attributed to that journal. Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 05:58, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
I do a little bit of everything in Wikiversity Journal, otherwise I state no potential conflicts of interest in making this peer review. Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 16:23, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

{{response|Thank you for your comments. The entries marked with an asterisk are related to inborn errors of metabolism (IBEMs). It has been suggested that increased familiarity, education and advocacy are needed for this group of inherited disorders which fall within the remit of the Pediatrician. We are of the view that since the table is focused on Pediatrics it is important to draw attention to IBEMs by means of a comment at the bottom of the table. The idea you propose for a “note-list” is acceptable to us, please feel free to implement it. We would be happy to expand the note before the table to mention which terms were considered for inclusion. We included medical terms that have analogies related to food and drink (and related to items involved in the preparation or consumption of food and drink). Although not strictly an analogy, a tumbler is related to the consumption of fluid and we were of the opinion that it is also important to highlight the controversy surrounding the use of the tumbler test because of the serious ramifications associated with this test’s use. We agree that “milk anemia” does not fit into this framework. Once again thank you for your comments. LK and GM Part (discuss • contribs) 21:04, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Reference
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Discussion at WikiProject Medicine

 * The following discussion is copied from the discussion at WikiProject Medicine regarding this article earlier this year

Article: Table of pediatric medical conditions and findings named after foods Peer review

Since Wikiversity Journal of Medicine is not yet acceptable as a reference itself, its main function is now to be an entry point for texts and images that qualify for inclusion in Wikipedia in their own right. I think that qualification is best discussed even before publication in this journal, and therefore I will now make entries on Wikipedia:Wikipedia talk:Wikiversity for new submissions to the journal, starting with the most recently peer reviewed submission, Table of pediatric medical conditions and findings named after foods. Please join its discussion at: Wikipedia:Wikipedia talk:Wikiversity. Mikael Häggström (talk) 05:50, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

I copied the discussion at WikiProject Medicine regarding this article earlier this year to the box below for reference. Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 20:03, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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Include "Conditions and findings named after foods"?


 * Sounds like WP:TRIVIA. These lists are kept in social media domains but it doesn't sound encyclopedia. JFW &#124; T@lk  12:58, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * it probably is--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:22, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

{{response|Thanks JFW and Ozzie10aaaa for your comments. To the best of our knowledge we are not aware of such lists existing in the social media domains (unless they have originated from the published literature or they are spontaneous lists - of debatable quality - that have not been peer reviewed). In addition to the several references that we cite in [our article], here are more examples of such lists in the published literature.

Also, WP:TRIVIA that you refer to states, "Trivia sections should be avoided. If they must exist, they should in most cases be considered temporary, until a better method of presentation can be determined." Our list is not temporary and has been presented in a way accepted for scholarly material as highlighted by our references. Our list falls under Medical eponyms (eponym - named after a person, place or thing) making it undoubtedly encyclopedic material. LK and GM. Part (talk) 04:27, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Articles that can be improved from text in this article
The previous discussions mainly came to the conclusion that making such a list article in Wikipedia wasn't approved. However, I've taken another look at the table, and it does have many referenced examples of symptoms and findings, which can be used to improve several Wikipedia articles. I've listed them below, with preference for those that are supported by secondary sources: Reference list:
 * Cabbage-like odor, Rancid butter odor: The text, with its reference, in the table can be used to expand the article tyrosinemia type 1.
 * Cottage-loaf sign: Can similarly be used in total anomalous pulmonary venous connection/drainage/return.
 * Doughnut sign, Sandwich sign: Can be used in Intussusception.
 * Egg on a string sign: Can be used in transposition of the great arteries/vessels.
 * Honey-colored crusts: The reference can be used to confirm this statement in impetigo.
 * Mulberry molars: The reference can be used in mulberry molar and congenital syphilis.
 * Olive-shaped mass: The reference can be used in pyloric stenosis.
 * Red-currant jelly stool: The reference can be used in Intussusception.
 * Rotten eggs odor: Can be used in cystinuria.
 * Salt-pepper retinopathy: The reference can be used in congenital rubella syndrome.
 * Salt grains: The reference can be used in Koplik's spot.
 * Sausage-shaped mass: The reference can be used in Intussusception.

Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 19:29, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The article is now included in Wikiversity Journal of Medicine, and the mentioned additions listed above are now added to the Wikipedia articles. Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 17:26, 21 April 2015 (UTC)