Talk:WikiJournal of Medicine/The Hippocampus

Submission letter
The main authors, who will be displayed at the top of the article, first need to agree with the conditions of of WikiJournal of Medicine/Submission letter for single author as adapted to this article in the box below. Agreement can be done by adding: at the bottom of this section. If there are any conflicts of interest, please describe the nature of them. You may edit the text in the box accordingly. Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 20:11, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with the submission letter above ~ 

I hereby affirm that I am an author of the Hippocampus article in Wikipedia.

I agree to have my real name displayed in the work when published in WikiJournal of Medicine.

I affirm that the article content is not already submitted to a publisher that prohibits further publication.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

Conflicts of interest:
 * My institution has not at any time received payment or services from a third party for any aspect of the submitted work.
 * I do not have financial relationships, regardless of amount of compensation, with entities in the bio-medical arena that could be perceived to influence, or that give the appearance of potentially influencing, what I wrote in the submitted work. This includes all sources of revenue paid, or promised to be paid, directly to me or my institution on my behalf over the 36 months prior to submission of the work.
 * I do not have patents, whether planned, pending or issued, broadly relevant to the work.
 * There are no other relationships or activities that readers could perceive to have influenced, or that give the appearance of potentially influencing, what I wrote in the submitted work.


 * "I agree with the submission letter above" --Iztwoz (discuss • contribs) 21:50, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Comments from first peer reviewer
The article has now been peer reviewed by an neuroscientist (Ph.D.) independent from the journal administration, and who preferred to remain anonymous. I copy the comments to the box below, with permission. Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 19:35, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, the peer reviewer has "no conflicts of interest in reviewing this work". Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 13:45, 24 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your replies. So, the main issue that needs to be addressed before inclusion of the article in the journal is the disconnect between hippocampal involvement in declarative memory versus spatial navigation, preferably by mentioning functional imaging studies. The peer reviewer has referred to the following works:


 * The article has now undergone amendments from these peer review comments: . Upon checking with the peer reviewer, the following issues were raised. Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 13:50, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Further amendments by the author are located at. Subsequent comment by peer reviewer follows. Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 13:50, 24 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Author response is located at Wikipedia:Talk:Hippocampus (possibly archived). Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 17:42, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Editorial response

 * Many of these points relate to the layout system of the journal, which does not apply only to this article. An "Editorial response" is not usually required, but I feel it is very useful here.
 * 1. The PDF file of the final article will be tailored to the content (See guidelines on this step), and not be the automatically generated one in the left menu.
 * I will bring some to the editorial board, to discuss whether we should generally recommend these measures:
 * 2. Whether we should recommend that images must be numbered, and be cited inside article.
 * 3. Black & White friendliness
 * 12. Target readers
 * 13. Plagiarism checking of wiki content. It is problematic due to false positives created by the various mirror sites.
 * Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 20:46, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


 * An update:
 * 2. There is yet no consensus on whether images must be numbered, and be cited inside article, so until then, this way of formatting is permitted. Preferably, each image should be numbered as "Image 1" etc.
 * 3. Black-and-white friendliness is now added to the guidelines . I arranged to have arrows added to the mentioned image in the introduction.
 * 12. The target readers of WikiJournal are now added at its About page
 * 13. There still exists no convenient way to perform plagiarism checking of content from Wikipedia due to the false positives in existing systems.
 * Mikael Häggström (discuss • contribs) 20:23, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Response to update
Many thanks to the editors and to the author for their kind work on updates. Glad to see all the improvements of the article.

As stated before, the article provides an added value to scientific literature. It is fit for publishing.

Some few suggestions if possible:
 * I have uploaded some images (all newly uploaded except the first image, not upladed by me) that might help in making better demonstration for the article. They are all creative common license and in the commons wikimedia. In differnet categories. They are just a suggestion not an obligation. The author might chose whether or not to use them.
 * File:Golgi 1885 Plate XX.JPG ---A kitten Hippocampus (May be added to section 7 other animals)
 * File:Hippocampus-Hippocampal morphology of the four rodent species.jpg---Comparison of animals Hippocampus (May be added to section 7 other animals)
 * File:Hippocpus-Principal hippocampal subdivisions in the marmoset.jpg---Comparison of animals Hippocampus (May be added to section 7 other animals)
 * File:Hippocampus-Principal hippocampal cell number distribution in the phylogenetic tree.jpg---Comparison of animals Hippocampus (May be added to section 7 other animals)
 * File:Hippocampus-Hippocampal cell number and body weight relationships in the rodent group.jpg---Comparison of animals Hippocampus (May be added to section 7 other animals)
 * File:Hippocampus-Bird brain.png---A Bird brain Showing Hippocampus (HP) (May be added to section 7 other animals)
 * File:Hippocampus coronal section176157.fig.004.jpg ---Hippocampus and Cornu Ammonis regions (CA1, CA2, CA3, CA4) (May be added to section 3.1 circuitry or section 3 anatomy)
 * File:Hippocampal -Cornu Ammonis.png ---Cornu Ammonis in rats (May be added to section 7 other animals or section 3 anatomy or section 6.2 stress)
 * File:Epilepsy- right hippocampal seizure onset.png---An EEG showing Epilepsy-right hippocampal seizure onset (May be added to section 6.3 Epilepsy)
 * File:Epilepsy-left hippocampal seizure onset.png---An EEG showing Epilepsy-left hippocampal seizure onset (May be added to section 6.3 Epilepsy)


 * As regard section 6.2 stress:
 * Glucocorticoids and increased cortisol level is the predominant idea discussed under this section and not stress.
 * Naming it only by the title STRESS may be slightly misleading. As stress include many many neuroendocrinal responses (e.g. glucocorticoids, epinephrine, norepnephrine, insulin, dopamine, ACTH ...etc). I find the section title stress, however the discussion inside the section has only discussed the glucocorticoids in most of the points raised inside (1st paragraph: Glucocorticoids receptors; 2nd paragraph: Chronic stress resulting in elevated levels of glucocorticoids; 2nd paragraph: The higher levels of cortisol in Cushing’s syndrome; 2nd paragraph: dendrites are shortened in length and reduced in number, in response to increased glucocorticoids; 2nd paragraph: After treatment with medication to reduce cortisol in Cushing’s syndrome).
 * Despite mentioning some general points of stress effect but mentioning the glucocorticoids was very evident, beside chosing not to talk about other neuroendocrine mediators related to stress. Mentioning the glucocorticoids occurred five times in this section and was discussed more extensive. However the good effect of neuroprotective ovarian hormones was added to the last sentence.
 * Actually Cushing syndrome (mentioned 3 times to demonstrate effect of glucocorticoids on Hippocampus) is a pathologic state of continuous elevated cortisol levels. I think if the title remains "STRESS", it should be removed from this section as it is not a state of stress. It is a pathologic state of hypercortisolemeia. It can be used to demonstrate effect of cortisol on Hippocampus but not the effect of stress on Hippocampus.
 * I think the title should include glucocorticoids or cortisol words. Otherwise few sentences about other neuroendocrine mediators related to stress may be added.
 * It is OK to include Medical terms in headings e.g. section 5.1 Theta waves, section 6.4 Schizophrenia & section 6.5 Transient global amnesia. It is a medical journal after all.


 * As regard using the tables, it was a suggestion to improve the "yield" of the article to the readers and help to "take home messages". I can see that the article is very concentrated, that is why i have asked to point who are the target readers. Also i understand that the tables are "difficult to summerise" as you replied in your response. But we might need to put ourselves in the shoes of the reader. If it is difficult for a neuroscientist (as the author) to summerise a nice article like this, we would not expect high yield by the average reader or medical readers. After all it is a suggestion, you are free to accept or refuse.

As stated before, the article provides an added value to scientific literature. It is fit for publishing.

Good luck.--Ashashyou (discuss • contribs) 00:41, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Preparation for PDF publication
On thing that will need to be sorted one way or another is the referencing format. Whilst a legitimate alternative on-wiki, unfortunately the "Short citations" system doesn't work well in the PDF without internal hyperlinks. For example, the inline short citation 129 in the Notes section is "Shettleworth, 2003", however none of the references in the Reference section name Shettleworth as an author so without the internal hyperlinks. My preference is making all of the references to inline citations, however an alternative is to ensure that all of the name-date citations are easily paired with a reference. Once this is sorted, I shall continue creating the formatted PDF (currently paused). T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)talk 12:04, 11 March 2017 (UTC)