Topic talk:Energy storage

Overview and Plan
A suggested table of contents has been given.

Under the Technologies section, the sub-sections probably should be given the main sub-headings as in the previous sections so that their classification can be clearly seen.


 * This is looking good. I have a few suggestions. First, I encourage modularity. The goal may be a "brief" course, but if all these page sections are filled in there will be a very long page. Second, all actual learning resources for this course should ultimately be on pages in the main namespace. The page Topic:Energy storage should be a central point of organization and development for the course, a content development project where people collaborate to create, organize and develop the actual learning resources for the course. --JWSchmidt 13:15, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Point taken. Still new to this. How about we fill out each section, then as they grow migrate them to new pages in their own right and then leave behind the links to them as you essentially suggest. That way enthusiam can be retained. -ts 14:37, 22 June 2007 (GMT)
 * I have no problem with the method you suggest for developing the course content; it is a strategy that is frequently used. I went ahead and started a page called Energy Storage in Biological Systems. I would be interested to hear what you are thinking of as the target audience for this course. --JWSchmidt 15:01, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I will read up on the name space stuff and try to start following your template. Target audience would be those interested with some technical knowledge, familiar with basic physics. Hopefully some key equations can be added to the physics section to get a feel for doing quick order of magnitude calulations. Making it more technical would narrow the audience. What audience had you in mind? Goal is probably to increase awareness of energy storage and show how useful it is and that it is key to the success of renewables plus to flag research areas. Still open to more ideas.


 * I like the idea of including some math. It might be good to eventually have a list of math prerequisites, although sometimes it is possible to do a good job of verbally describing the quantitative aspects so that people without a good math background can get interested and maybe be motivated to learn some math. Eventually it would be nice to have something to offer to a wide range of people from different backgrounds. I often imagine that Wikipedia aims for a middle-of-the-road audience and that Wikiversity might be able to add some value both to help people who get confused when technical jargon is used at Wikipedia and to also provide more advanced learning opportunities for people who want to go into more detail than is possible at Wikipedia. In particular, Wikiversity is open to research and explorations beyond the existing well-established facts. --JWSchmidt 20:18, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Basic Physics
The text and subsections as they get filled out can be migrated to the suggested new page Basic Physics of Energy Storage

The level this is pitched at is to give enough physics so that people can understand the principles of all the various energy storage mechanism and devices. There is no point getting into heavy physics that gives a much more detailed and correct explanation because inevitably it will require more equations and scare people off. The ideal would be to add a sub-section at the end of each energy type explaining that more detailed info can be found elsewhere like wikipedia or elsewhere on wikiversity.

Kinetic Energy
The explanation of this will need to be tied up later and a link to a more detailed explanation added that shows for working out the moment of inertia, it is not quite so simple for various shaped.

It would also be nice to have some diagrams at some point.


 * There are some pages such as Work and energy that could be developed and linked to. --JWSchmidt 21:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm, not quite sure because it is important to make it applicable to the particular topic here. There will be many other courses that will probably have energy and would need their own slant. A pure physics course would be the best place to do a proper job on Work and energy and that could also be linked to at the end of all the other course that dip into this area. Terence wiki 22:38, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Thermal Energy
There probably should be more mention of the convectional flows. I was going to give the example of ocean currents, but that is not all thermal as different densities due to salinty difference are at work too, so that might serve to confuse more than clarify

lin
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/oct/29-the-element-that-could-change-the-world Emesee 23:30, 29 September 2008 (UTC)