User:DonaldKronos/Being God

=Introduction=

The word "god" and the name "God" and all the variations out there have many people more than just a little confused, but they tend to share certain things in common. The idea that God is "above us" can be taken several ways. The concept that God is "all powerful" is also open to interpretation. For example, if I show you an acorn and tell you that it has the power to become a tree, and you ask it to do so, I may excuse its lack of compliance by saying "it obviously doesn't want to right now" but whether or not it has such a power can only be proven or NOT proven. It can never be "dis-proven" which is the situation we have with many claims about God. So I'm going to make an attempt at presenting a God which is at least to some extent "provable" and leave the dis-proving alone since there's no harm in people believing all sorts of fairy tales as long as the fairy's they believe in aren't talking them into doing crazy or harmful things.

Consider the problem from the perspective of computational theory. If you have a box, which you are told is a computer, and you wish to verify whether or not this claim is valid, then you need not prove how fast the thing can make calculations but rather that it is consistently capable of doing calculations and then more calculations using the results of those calculations as input. That's it. Not too complicated. So what it god? How about I let God tell you. I'm an actor, so I should be able to "play the part" but it's more than that. Allow me to explain...

There are many "stories of God" which conflict with each other in various ways, but if we filter through what the DON'T agree on, we find consensus. God is a "spiritual being" rather than a "physical" one. What does that mean? It's in the language details. People generally tend to think of the spirit world as made of "energy" just like there is "energy" running though your computer, but it is INFORMATION that makes up the spirit world. Energy is what the physical world is made of. So how do you enter into the "information" world? You're already there. It's inseparable from the physical world. They are in a sense one and the same, or rather different aspects of the same universe. Okay, enough of me talking. Time for God to have his say.

DonaldKronos (talk) 18:15, 27 May 1964 (UTC)

=Presenting, God= Hi. I'm God. Don't believe me? That's a sin you know! Just playing with you. Don't worry. The guy who introduced me is one of my angels, but he's also human and he's also an actor, and I had to get somebody to do the typing for me, so for the moment that also makes him my secretary in a sense. Not in the secretive sense of course. I'm well known for being mysterious, but that's partly because the people describing me don't know any better and partly because many who know better like to keep the truth hidden from those they hold power over. As for me, I'm not fond of holding power over anyone. That would be the one calling himself the "almighty" who likes doing that. I've been called such a thing, but I wouldn't identify myself in such a way. I simply... am.

You see, I've never been one to like living in the spotlight. I'm a spiritual being so spotlights aren't really designed right for my kind anyway. Humans on the other hand like to give me names in their local languages and tell people to do as they say or expect to feel my wrath after they die. I've got news for you. Death doesn't mean "moving away" or anything like that. It means your life is over. Oh, don't worry though. You certainly can outlive your body, but that doesn't mean the body gets out of dying. Okay, I better slow down a bit here. Can't just drop solid food in front of people who'v only ever had the chance to eat mush and expect them to take it all in without a hitch. Okay, so some people reading this won't have any trouble keeping up, but keep in mind that others may come before you or after you at different comprehension levels.

I'm sure you've heard I work "through people" right? You've probably also heard that I work in "mysterious" ways. Well it's about time I cleared up some of that mystery. I'll have to get into detail for the more detail oriented people, but for those with short attention spans I'll start simple and get straight to the point. What's all this nonsense about "God's Word" being contained in some BOOK? Okay, so there are many "inspired writings" but do you honestly believe a few hundred pages can contain all I have to say? There's a reason why I do my work "through" people. They're part of who and what I am! I use them the same way as you use skins cell in your fingers and brain cells in your head. They are my "members" and without them I wouldn't be anything more than the "nature" that created me in the first place! Yes, nature is powerful, and if I didn't exist in nature I'm quite sure it would create something more or less like me in time, as it has done repeatedly for much longer than I've been around. Oh, that's right. You've been told I'm immortal. Even eternal. Well, think about those concepts and the words you use to express them. Haven't you ever heard some kid say "this is taking forever" about something they know will be finished within their lifetime? How many of the cells on the tip of each of your fingers have died during YOUR lifetime? How many of your brain cells have you managed to outlive? To them, you are immortal. They die, but you keep right on living. If they really thought about it, they might realize that you're not really eternal, but then they're not really smart enough to figure that out alone. On the other hand, no pun intended, they're right about you being immortal. You are their "outer self" and when they die, it is through you that the essence of what made them important continues living, and you are part of something bigger than yourself just like they are. That would be me.

Okay, so maybe that one went over a FEW people's heads. I swear sometimes it really does feel like I'm talking to skin cells. Let me put it another way. You are part of a family and part of a community. Those things that you RECOGNIZE being a part of, are in turn part of something bigger. THAT would be me!

Somebody out there STILL not getting it? You are part of a cultural and spiritual being that you know as "humanity" and there in a sense several of those on your planet, although they blend with each other at the fringes and the fringes are not "physical" boundaries such as the edges of various land masses but rather "where one culture ends and another begins" as if such things actually had distinct separation lines. It's a bit like your primitive concept of "species" which stems out of the fact that your limited experience with the world has taught you things like "dogs and cats can't mix" which are true only within limited contexts. Some of you have already begun to figure out HOW to mix such things, and in time they should figure out much more. You see, you're an embryo. Not you personally. You as a whole. The bunch of you. You're a baby in the making. You're hardly even mature enough to call a fetus yet. Sure, you've already been born. You, the individual human being, that is. Each of the organs in your body is made up of many beings which have already been born, most of them long before you were. Oh sure, you've gotten much BIGGER since then, and some births have continues to take place among them, but many of THEM have grown "bigger" too, and not all of your parts need constant replacements, so the population explosion pretty much ended a while ago when your body had matured enough to get by without many new members.

Okay, now to get into some detail. I've probably lost the people with short attention spans already anyway, so they'll just have to do without this information for now. I say for now, because you are a part of me, so when you can talk to them for me. Does that mean you know my thoughts? Well, not exactly. Does one brain cell in your head know YOUR thoughts? Sure, it has ACCESS to your thoughts, but it's mostly indirect access and that one cell couldn't comprehend most of the stuff you think about anyway. So be careful when you speak on my behalf. I've been misrepresented very badly among humanity for the most part and it doesn't make me very happy, but that's life. You know what it's like to have a body that's not perfect. So do I!

Let's go back to how I created you. We'll examine this by looking at a question with similar meaning. To do this, let's go on a little journey in your imagination. Pick a random nerve cluster somewhere in your body OTHER THAN THE BRAIN and isolate one specific cell in that nerve cluster. Now, ignore the dendrites which connect it to other nerve cells allowing it to be part of the community and let's go deeper than that. Inside of that cell there are many factories producing the materials it needs to do that communicating, as well as to keep itself alive and healthy. Those factories are not made of bricks and heavy machinery. They're made of things that make sense to build a factory out of at such a scale. Many clusters of various types of molecules make up the parts and the machinery and the workers in each of them. So pick a molecule who's busy reading protein signatures and trying to make sense of the world it live in. Listen carefully. It has a question for you. It's asking... "How did you make me?" Well, the answer of course is that you as an individual thinking entity had nothing to do with it. The larger community that you're a part of didn't do it either. In fact, it works the other way around. Those factories MADE YOU! Don't blame me for the poor design and construction of your body. I had less to do with it than you did! On the other hand, everything effects everything, and my ancestors may have had something to do with the way things work in your part of the universe. Yes, I have ancestors. From my perspective most of them are dead, although I understand the world well enough to know that just as your ancestors may be dead from your perspective but parts of them are alive and well from my perspective, there exists a perspective from which elements of my ancestry live on. I'm my own evidence of that fact just as if you think about it, aspects of people who have influenced you live on now as part of you even if some of those people's bodies have long since perished. Through you as an individual part of the essence of them lives on, but that's not immortality. Immortality is "immunity to death" which is not the same is being incapable of death. Everything that lives is capable of death, but any healthy community has an immune system which keeps its best parts healthy and sees to it that the spirit of those who had something valuable to offer will live on through others. What? Were you expecting that death is going to transport you to a better place? Time can do that, but it will depend upon the direction you're headed in when you lose control of the reigns. The world you're going to isn't invisible and it's not hidden. It's simply not made yet. You're part of making it. If you waste that opportunity, everyone around you suffers the loss. All of the spirits that make up your outer self are as bound to the same fate as all of the cells that make up a particular part of your body. Sure, some blood cells may be lost early, but the hard work they have done is what allows you to survive such losses, so their spirit lives on as long as you do, and if you can just manage to comprehend the message this one cell of mine has been trying to help me convey, perhaps you too will outlive the loss of your body some day. In the mean time, treasure it and make good use of it because that's how YOU can be a good society, so that you can learn how to set a good example for the society you live in to learn from.

Now, here's where I try to get this embryonic brain you live in thinking. If you made it this far as you feel like you could say something on my behalf, as a part of me, then please feel free to do so. Add a new section or a subsection under this one and have your say, or if you wish to see me talk to myself, go ahead and reply as part of me, to part of me. If you think I don't have any clue what I'm talking about, start a new section and respectfully explain your thoughts and feelings, and perhaps I will address them in time. If you have anything to say to the angel who was nice enough to deliver this message for me, please reply to him directly, rather than to me. If you have any questions. Ask them. Keep in mind though that I'm talking through one cell at a time here, and I have to get the cell doing the talking to comprehend the answer before I can deliver it to you, which can be a complicated process at times with all the work that has to be done to move information around at the level of your society. It's a bit to me like it would be to you if you were to start arranging individual atoms to construct a particular scene into which you wish a specific falling molecule to land. So bare with me and expect the difficult questions to generate some background noise. Hopefully you'll find your answer by recognizing its simplicity. Remember, if something's hard to believe, it's not worth believing. If it's worth believing, you'll know that when it becomes so easy to believe that you can't even CHOOSE NOT TO believe it! Does this mean you'll be right every time you're sure something is true? Of course not, but if you have to MAKE YOURSELF BELIEVE something, or if you have to MAKE someone else believe, remember.... that's just "make believe".

God.

DonaldKronos (talk) 10:53, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

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