User:Erkan Yilmaz/observations/2008 March

You are invited to add your comments (e.g. but my perception of this issue is different) - please sign anything you add (howto Signature).

todo

 * read assignment

thoughts

 * copyright consists of two words: copy and right. Right alone can mean that someone or some people have a right (e.g. to copy) and others not. Someone is making here a distinction between haves and have-nots, insiders and outsiders to a certain group. How to get this right ? How long you have that right ? Is that right binding to anyone ? Copying can be done by more people - also by people who have not a certain right. How are the goals of the copying people and the right-owners identical or not ? Can these groups merged to one (some day) or does the struggle continue (see below in 557 A.D where 3,000 men were killed) ? What kind of change does this require in people's heads ? Who can help to bring this change of mind ?
 * "Try to ellaborate why the copyright is as it is and why Lessig is claiming that we need "Free Culture". Try to also contextualize these ideas in your own work and country."
 * Lessig (btw: great presentation) seems to point that the "individual" (we) have done nothing to prevent that "others" control the creativity/freedom. Perhaps because lawmakers, lawyers,... are too strong and/or indviduals are not interested, lazy, not organized, ... ?
 * So, what have I done recently to enable freedom/creativity ? Examples:
 * All my contributions are e.g. at
 * en.WV under GFDL and
 * de.WV under CC-BY-SA 2.5
 * but I quote myself:
 * "my edits here are under GNU FDL - but hey, just ask me and you can use it under another licence - what's the big deal ?" (source)
 * My Personal learning environment is in public, so others can profit and also I can profit.
 * my answer to the question: "So I'm a newcomer to Wikiversity. What can I write?":
 * "Anything, as long as it helps you achieve your learning (goals) and if also others can participate in the learning process: even better (so, that comment probably will cause now a lot of heat :-) ) One good thing about Wikiversity from my point of view (POV) is the freedom it offers in comparison to other Wikimedia projects. So, just be bold !"
 * Wikiversity:IRC meeting:New licence for Wikiversity Beta
 * Probably that is not all listed, but if any of us does a little something, it will work. We are more people than a few people at critical, powerful positions (I hope that does not sound aggressive ?). Just be creative and find a way through the bottleneck.
 * [[Image:2ndAvenueSubwayStationBottleneck.jpg|200px|left]]




 * Probably some of you know "The Cape Town Open Education Declaration" (see here)


 * Figures from Germany are:
 * 31st March 2008: 108 signatures are from Germany (from a total of 1512 signatures by individuals) - that makes about 7% of all signatures
 * on 3rd Feb. 2008 it was 89 signatures from Germany, which was about 6.8% of all total individual signatures (see here)


 * Did you sign it already ?
 * TODO: check how the figures are for other countries


 * Unfortunately many people (especially newcomers in wikimedia projects) don't know (or care) much about copyright. It seems easier for them this way, but causes more effort/trouble later on to correct. How does this bring the Wikimedia foundation into legal trouble ?
 * some pages which might help then:
 * Uploading files, The GFDL and you, Free content



other participants

 * Let's ask the participants what kind of licence they release their stuff on their blogs (see also: here)
 * I started writing to some blogs, but since this may be interpreted as spam and I also have not the time, I posted this at the course blog here - hope some people read it.

History of copyright law
557 A.D.:
 * "One of the earliest copyright disputes reputedly took place in 557 A.D. between Abbot Finnian of Moville and St. Columba over St. Columba's copying of a Psalter belonging to an Abbot. The dispute over ownership of the copy led to the Battle of Cúl Dreimhne (also know as Battle of Cooldrumman), in which 3,000 men were killed."

14th + 15 century developments:
 * increase of mercantile trade
 * secular universities appear
 * movable type by Gutenberg

Copyright origins in Britain:
 * 1662: Licensing Act
 * 1709: Statute of Anne (enacted in England, Scotland and Wales)
 * "This statute first accorded exclusive rights to authors (ie, creators) rather than publishers, and it included protections for consumers of printed work ensuring that publishers could not control their use after sale. It also limited the duration of such exclusive rights to 28 years, after which all works would pass into the public domain."

international:
 * 1887:
 * "Internationally, the Berne Convention in 1887 set out the scope of copyright protection, and is still in force to this day."
 * "As soon as the work is "fixed", that is, written or recorded on some physical medium (e.g. words written on page, music recorded onto tape, etc.), its author is automatically granted exclusive rights to the distribution of the work and any derivative works unless and until the author explicitly disclaims them, or until the copyright expires."

2008 March 29 - German Wikiversity has its 1000th article
Learning content in de.WV is separated into courses ("Kurs") and projects:
 * Kurs: 831 pages
 * Projekt: 641 pages


 * Kurs Diskussion: 156 pages
 * Projekt Diskussion: 119 pages

Since we have now a number 1000 let's celebrate this:
 * The German Wikiversity has now its 1000th article.Thanks to all who helped achieving this.

That is all numbers and doesn't have to mean anything - also in comparison to other figures. But it is a small start. Help us grow !

2008 March 27 - Usurpation is against assume good faith ?
background info with SUL:


 * 0-edit-contributors: why take from them back the faith we put in them ? Did they do something that provoked this ?
 * will the new owners of that account contribute here more ? if so, why didn't they so far contribute or noticed that the account was gone ?


 * more to come, during that, feel free to think loud here
 * edit 2008-03-30: see Wikiversity talk:Changing username

2008 March 27 - a journey into the past
If you wanna go back ca. 2400 years back in time this Saturday, 29.3. click here.

2008 March 24 - importing pages from other projects: Wikimedia Garbage Detail
Today someone else than me suggested to import pages into de.WV :-) see de:Projekt:Fundstücke aus anderen Wikimedia-Projekten

2008 March 23 - Wikimedia Foundation & Google Summer of Code™
Wikimedia Foundation is taking part in the Google Summer of Code™ as a mentoring organization.Student application period is from [http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline 24.-31. March]. Join and please also tell others ! See the list of project ideas which surely will help the wikimedia projects. 
 * 2008-04-02: extended until 7th of April

Todo

 * read [[Image:Green tick.svg|20px]]
 * assignment for this week: read mostly articles on WP, discuss them, e.g. show similarities and differences
 * I think I will start with the German WP articles first and read then the English ones - I guess with this I can help also WP: optimize both articles, ...
 * When was the first Folk high school founded in Denmark ?: it is told 1844 and the German article (see discussion) tells: 1830. Does somebody have any info regarding this ?
 * a text change regarding Wikiversity

thoughts

 * How many of the participants edited a Wikipedia article while reading or wrote a comment on the talk page there ?
 * I wonder how many course participants signed The Cape Town Open Education Declaration ?
 * It is tiring to read all always the same topics on all the blogs - I pity the facilitators :-( So I made a fun section
 * Perhaps it could be better to "force" people to do something collaboratively (e.g. reviewing + optimizing a Wikipedia article together) ?

Age of Enlightenment
What is it that brings enlightenment/changes ? (age of) people ? "correct" mindset ? emotions ? (new) technologies ? disasters ? luck ? other factors ? All together ? 


 * Doubt everything at least one time, even if it is the sentence: 2 x 2 = 4 („Zweifle an allem wenigstens einmal, und wäre es auch der Satz zwei mal zwei ist vier“) (Lichtenberg)
 * "Knowledge is power." (by Francis Bacon)
 * tolerance (e.g. against religions); human is naturally good, you just have to show him, that he realizes it
 * -> Assume Good Faith, Please do not bite the newcomers


 * Categorical imperative: often forgotten
 * Lesegesellschaft -> see also Wikiversity:reading groups
 * new method of book printing (Gutenberg) -> Mediawiki software (initial release: January 2002)
 * Enlightenment was primarily done by the wealthy, especially by the economically successful bourgeoisie. ("Die Aufklärung war vor allem Sache der Wohlhabenden, namentlich des ökonomisch erfolgreichen Bürgertums." )


 * timeline of some important persons during the Age of Enlightenment (in general I like the French article better, because it gets relaxed with pictures, where you can catch the atmosphere from back then)
 * famous persons from the Age of Enlightenment: de.WP, en.WP

Standing on the shoulders of giants
I have here a picture in mind what we do normally with kids. Parents put them on their shoulders, so they can see more. So, they see the world from a different angle. Also some kids have the wish to climb on trees (which probably have seen many things in all the years, but don't tell to us). Becoming tall needs time. Change in position needs some effort, force to fight (against gravity), which kids don't have yet.

Isn't it most of the times easier in the wiki-verse to continue an existing page than creating a new one ? Don't most of the Wikipedia readers just consume (without giving back) ?


 * when reading the intro following associations popped up in my head:
 * dwarf -> Snow White
 * giants -> Titans


 * profiting from (edits by) previous contributors
 * knowledge communism (Wissenskommunismus)

when searching in commons I found these pictures only which relate a little to the picture I had in mind:

Origins of the public library as a social institution

 * I still get some books from the library, but I must say I like to buy them, because then I can write in them and others are not influenced when reading (when I edit a note in wiki others get influenced).
 * After seeing the pictures in the article I had the urge to show you one: Here is a youtube video of my university library (jump to position 3:10 to see the building from outside). In the video you can also see where I lived on campus :-)

TODO 

Popular Education

 * Paulo Freire, started in Latin America for analphabetic farmers
 * goal: transfer knowledge and also change of society


 * History from below (todo)

TODO

Folk High School
TODO

Free Software Movement
TODO

fun section: not serious answers (perhaps they are ?)
1. Why access to information is important?
 * than ?

2. Why education is considered as a human right?
 * by ?

3. Who will benefit if the access to information and education is improved?
 * they (don't say it loud, not even think of it)

4. Who is afraid of the access for all and why?
 * they (don't say it loud, not even think of it)

"they": didn't you read Big Brother (1984) ?

2008 March 10 - OER week2: Introduction to LeMill and Wikiversity
So, we survived already the 1st week of the course. Assignment of week2 begins today.

my assignment for this week
>* You should register with LeMill or Wikiversity, contribute something in the form of constructive feedback in discussion forums, editing, or new page creation, then write one (1) blog post about the experience
 * Well, I am doing this already at Wikiversity. But I have an idea: I want to help the course participants (this means YOU) who decide to contribute here also.
 * Advantage:
 * perhaps this can help people being faster efficient here by getting appropriate hints ?
 * I don't know what the expectations of people were in the 1st week, but I personally expected that there was more interaction between each other and this could help perhaps ? Also saving time for Teemu + Hans :-)


 * Disadvantage: I fear this will cost some time and let's see if I can explore LeMill more.

survival guide for Wikiversity
>* Try to locate a group or project where people are working on some learning resource or study project that you could assist with, and join the group or project by notifying the other editors of your interest.
 * some hints how to proceed here:
 * can the course participants tell on a central page their interested areas ? e.g. here
 * This can be used to find others from this course having similar interest, so you would be already a team :-)
 * Please also don't forget to foster cooperation with other projects - so why not join with different people from here and there ?
 * Try the search button in Wikiversity (see left navigation bar)? Did it not bring good/enough results ? Perhaps this page might help: Searching (there are the go- and search button, last one delivers more results) Besides the search there is also available the major portals where you can dive in. When you don't find anything, why not create it ?
 * There are the recent changes, where you can see what is actually being edited.
 * Advantage: if someone is editing at the moment, you can join hands with this person, because in some learning projects contributors are e.g. in vacation.
 * use all means to find people, e.g. the Chat - try this link to go directly there. There should be always someone (Support staff, ...) able/willing to help you.
 * You could e.g. ask in the Colloquium also to find people who are interested in same topics.
 * If you found a learning project/page you can find people lately being active there over the "history"-button on top of each page or see the talk page.
 * on every user page you can find on the left navigation bar "Toolbox" the link: "E-mail this user" - if the person has activated email in his preferences (see tab "User profile" > E-mail > Enable e-mail from other users") she might react faster


 * I would recommend to go in yourself and search something where you have interest (e.g. hobby,...). This is what is always good when doing things.
 * I nearly forgot, this is the standard message a new user receives here: Template:Welcome


 * Probably there are still some questions or ? Either contact me or even better: write in the Colloquium and even faster: visit the Chat
 * Be bold !

expected outcome ?
>* As well as joining an existing project, start your own new content or wiki-page resource in LeMill or Wikiversity.
 * I think one result of this week could be a separate page about the experiences so that future participants will profit from this ?
 * And hopefully much more from you :-)

Questions I have at the moment

 * how many people will join ?
 * what happens when it is too much for me ? I think I will find some other good souls around here to help us.
 * Is this bad since I perhaps don't have the time to get to know LeMill more ?
 * Is this in the goal of the assignment ? I mean should people learn on their own or use such an offered advantage ?

TODO

 * ask Teemu + Hans what they think [[Image:Green tick.svg|20px]]
 * create this list of people already being here active (from the participant list) [[Image:Green tick.svg|20px]]
 * why don't you edit that page if you get active here ?


 * write them on their talk page or email them ?
 * not done, if someone doesn't want to come here, don't spam him :-)


 * btw: is there a mailing list available ?

examples what was done already

 * Wikiversity talk:Research
 * Talk:Web design
 * Talk:Composing free and open online educational resources
 * Talk:Web design
 * comments in blogs: Peter, Janet, Mark, Jeanette, Ari, Keith, James
 * "You just have to clear the mind to let flow the ideas (ok, sounds now as if I had some illegal substance in me - but no - I don't use these - but I hope you get the idea ?)." (source: me)

observations

 * people still do not use the interaction possibility much (Chat, ...) :-( Why isn't the collective mind used more ? You have a question ? Someone will know the answer and save e.g. you the time to search. Also you learn new people with this. Therefore when I post on their blogs, I try to reference other participant's blogs - a good example for interaction was that of Anica, see here
 * Today I saw 3 course participants successfully participate in the Chat. Also from another participant I know she did this in the past. And from the others I assume now: they are already experts and selected nick names from which others can not infer who they are ;-)
 * The participation level of James is just incredible


 * I fear people expect that everything must be super perfect and such ? It is a wiki - if the next one finds your contribution this will already be a help - so just be bold - really. Imagine in 1 week doing a completely new project is impossible - I guess nobody expects that. Just start - it takes time to learn the wiki way.
 * I also try not to overwhelm them - perhaps it can be seen as too intrusive ? If I reply on their edits referencing the edit itself with a history link - perhaps they fear then: "Ah, each edit is observed ?" Just do more edits, then nobody will have the time to do so :-) And really we have other things to do then watch every step of yours :-)

2008 March 9 - making my notes to Thucydides: The Peloponnesian War available on Wikiversity
nothing dramatic: they can be found on the German Wikiversity here. Was thinking why I released it now: I assume it was because of these recent posts: Juan, Daan.
 * In case you don't know: our weekly chats are also published - here on Wikiversity

week1: 3rd post: Study the open education projects online and write a commentary about them in your blog.
There are given following 5 online projects where I should give a commentary :-) So, I will do this with an use case (in the hope to simulate a normal user): I am interested in history, at the moment in Thucydides: The Peloponnesian War (431-404 BC) - let's see if these projects can offer me information regarding this.

summary

 * licence: Wikiversity uses GNU FDL - all others use some kind of a CC licence
 * finding people with same interest: tags help to find easier other people with same interests, seen so far at LeMill.net, Open University - check the others also
 * Wikiversity hasn't something like this in this form, but there are categories, which could be used or user boxes


 * register an account: could not register an account at MIT OpenCourseWare, the other four offered this
 * could I as normal user find the info I wish ?
 * search gave back at least 1 hit for Thucydides and/or Peloponnesian War at:
 * Open University, MIT, Wikiversity, LeMill.net


 * multilanguage:
 * all wikimedia projects have several languages - a complete list you can find on meta. Especially for Wikiversity there is a "breeding ground": betawikiversity
 * To have a new Wikiversity site, you need ten active participants for the project. Then you can request (at meta) for a new language domain to be set up.
 * Also LeMill offers more pages in other languages, but I am not sure how much the percentage is



Open University (UK) Open Content Initiative

 * visting at March 5th, 2008:
 * The website tells: "The OpenLearn website gives free access to course materials from The Open University."
 * Ok, I have an account now there.
 * seems they are more multimedia oriented: I see a world map, chat possibility, link to video meeting possibility
 * TODO: test this
 * I want to jump first to "Arts and History" :-)
 * I am a little impatient, so my search for Thucydides or Peloponnesian War does not reveal a hit - ok, let's scan the material then page by page
 * First thought: why not have the possibility to show all in one page ?
 * When using the main search I get 34 hits on the term Thucydides and 15 hits for Peloponnesian War
 * TODO: scan them
 * Aha: "Finding information in Arts and History": let's join it for a later read :-)
 * subscribe also to: "French Revolution"


 * TODO: read FAQ
 * If I go to my profile and click on my learning interest's tags I can find other people, e.g. History tag leads me to 20 other persons with this tag
 * licence: Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 Licence


 * So, more to come, gotta go

Rice Connexions

 * it says: "a place to view and share educational material made of small knowledge chunks called modules that can be organized as courses, books, reports, etc."
 * also have an account here now
 * TODO: read quick start + FAQ, TED Talk Richard Baraniuk - Talks about the Connexions project
 * licence used is: CC by 2.0
 * wow: in the confirmation email they offer a telephone number if I have problems

MIT OpenCourseWare

 * I remember somewhere in a deeper part of my brain cells, that I got this told by a friend. Probably also because of the MIT :-) Was before getting involved in wikimedia projects. But didn't do much more back then.
 * Well let's go the history department. I thought: perhaps they have something about Thucydides: The Peloponnesian War (431-404 BC) ? hehe, there might be something at The Ancient World: Greece: "...Thucydidean rationalism, and the Peloponnesian War; ..."
 * so, I found something there already which might interest me, didn't have yet the time to assess the quality of that info :-(
 * suggestion: perhaps they can implement a column with a time line of the courses to sort at the main page of the history department ? could help people to find info faster ?
 * licence: CC by-nc-sa 3.0

LeMill.net

 * it tells: "LeMill is a web community of 2156 teachers and other learning content creators. At the moment LeMill has 1127 reusable learning content resources, 206 descriptions of teaching and learning methods, and 387 descriptions of teaching and learning tools. If your learning resource is not yet in LeMill, please join the community and let's make it together."
 * ok, let's also register here then
 * here the history tag leads me to 37 other participants who I have the chance to contact
 * licence: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License
 * got a result for "Peloponnesian War", but the page is not yet created - who knows, perhaps I might add some info :-)
 * offers and probably wants to be multilanguage
 * my collection
 * TODO: Take a Tour + read FAQ


 * no 24/7 service:
 * when going there 2008 March 4th, 18:37 UTC I see: "We are updating LeMill.net and the service is in read-only mode. You can browse LeMill, but not log in or edit content. The service will be back in few hours. Apologies for the inconvenience."
 * ok, let`s postpone my visit a little then
 * haha, when visiting commons 2 mins later I got:
 * Wikimedia Commons has a problem
 * Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
 * Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
 * (Can't contact the database server: Too many connections (10.0.0.231))

Wikiversity

 * Well, what do you expect now from me to write ? haha :-)
 * One of the most important things for it to work: trust. Most of us do this in our free time and don't even get paid.
 * Just thinking if I should write more BAD things about it :-) Let's see, have some more days until the assignments for week1 have to be delivered.
 * licence: GNU FDL

other participants

 * "The participants are expected to evaluate and give constructive feedback to each other through comments on other blogs and synthesis of other's ideas on their own blog." (see here).


 * edit 9th March:
 * I have now replied on a few blogs and some thoughts regarding this:
 * only a few don't allow immediate showing of comments
 * what kind of licence are their posts under ? I would like to cite them, but since nothing mentioned, I better don't quote :-( my edits here are under GNU FDL - but hey, just ask me and you can use it under another licence - what's the big deal ?
 * So I put a CC-BY on my blog. Erkan, I believe you are correct in suggesting all participants put some kind of licence on their blogs / posts... -- Prawstho 21:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello Peter, thanks for the initiative with the licence. Let's see how many others will follow. Erkan Yilmaz Wikiversity:Chat  22:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I will call people now by their first name - hope nobody cries now ? :-)
 * I am not sure but from the yet 70 subscribed participants not all seem to participate - roughly I would say maximum 30 are out there ?


 * edit 10th March:
 * I must say that I wanted to write more on the blog posts itself, but the reading of the other blogs cost also much time than was available. So I had to make a decision - and I preferred the interaction with others :-)


 * I guess a hello doesn't hurt.
 * Visited some blogs and wrote in a few a comment, could use some for the microfinance argument (see above). Who knows, perhaps there could be even a cooperation with French Wikiversity ?
 * edit March 9th: Thanks to Jean-Marie there is something happening :-) see fr:Composer des ressources éducatives en ligne libres et ouvertes (see discussion)
 * "Luca's page" I agree fully - it is a mental thing
 * "Michelle's page" I loved her argument
 * hey, Jean-Marie mentions me :-)
 * Barbara's blog: digitalizing books from libraries. I forgot to mention also wikisource as an example :-(
 * freenode + IRC - Jeanette you just brought a smile on my face
 * Sylvia's post about blind alleys :-( see my reply there


 * Per's blog has in comparison to others a much different design. You immediately switch your attention there.
 * Can't tell you exactly why, but I found the animal pictures on Michelle's blog refreshing.
 * interesting wiki seen on Enric's blog.


 * edit 15th March: that is what I am talking about: more interaction - course participants contacting each other: 1

week1: 2nd post: Open Educational Resources: What they are and why do they matter?

 * thoughts about page3 of this pdf "Open Educational Resources: What they are and why do they matter?" by Ilkka Tuomi, October 2006, Report prepared for the OECD :


 * "Assume, assume": am I in a mathematics lecture ? Assume this and that :-) I am exaggerating, we are especially in a virtual world, so anything can be possible.


 * creating and access to OER: still people need either internet or hardware. I am wondering how much people in the developing countries can access them when they want/need it. E.g. me, when I want some info, I just search at any moment. access stats for Wikiversity.org from Alexa (that does not mean these stats are true at all, they are just stats and should be treated so)


 * speaking in general: there are concepts like Microfinance already giving very good examples. I am wondering why it takes so long then ?


 * edit 2008 March 4th:
 * sad:, , 2nd comment: I was not able to begin yesterday because there was a long power cut ( it happens here!!!), Barbara's blog


 * edit 2008 March 8th:
 * page 5: "Cognitive technologies will be used to repair defects in learning styles and to compensate the effects of aging."
 * sounds interesting, especially the latter part
 * page6: hehe Wikipedia is mentioned


 * edit 2008 March 9th:
 * page7: I am wondering how many of the course participants did ever help to make open source software better in any kind of form by mailing feedback, bugs, ... to the developers so that the community profits from this. From a simple: "Hi, your software is great" to telling: "there is a typo in the help" or "Do you guys know that this function does not work, when you do this and that? It's reproducable, but on another pc it is not :-(" If you did, please reply :-)


 * page26: examples for hierarchical levels of openness at Wikiversity:
 * see also the comments by Keith and Rosmareri.


 * Openness I (access and accessibility):
 * users can not edit e.g. the Main Page, only read it because it is protected
 * "available but in a language that is incomprehensible for the user"
 * happens sometimes people don't see there is betawikiversity and input here the content and I have the chance then to find out in which language this is written :-) E.g. we also have language departments here, see School:Language and literature.


 * "or because some disabilities make the content unusable for some users"
 * definitely: wondering if there is a learning project about "how to improve Wikiversity content for disabled persons" ?


 * Openness II (the right and capability to enjoy the services generated by the resource):


 * example given which tells: to use content to pass a course with the users should be able to gain formal degrees if they so choose.


 * well in this OER course it says: "At the end of the course the facilitators (Teemu and Hans) will provide PASS, FAIL or COMPLEMENTARY WORK REQUIRED statements for each participant."


 * Here at Wikiversity there is no formal degrees, see also Will I earn a diploma at Wikiversity?: "No. That's one thing we don't do. At the moment you cannot earn credentials here. But you can learn here and then earn your credentials elsewhere. For now this is about the learning itself, by itself."


 * Openness III (the right and capability to modify, repackage, and add value to the resource):
 * we are a wiki, see also: Be bold; also fair use possible


 * page28ff: learned something about the history of copyright - thanks Ilkka

week1: 1st post: personal introduction

 * Regarding the introduction I am asked to make 3 posts - the first about introducing myself:


 * I am Erkan YILMAZ - at the moment living in Karlsruhe, Germany
 * >why I want to take this course ?
 * For me as Wikiversity user: I like the idea and I wanted to grab the chance.
 * >You may also use audio or video to present yourself.
 * perhaps later and in addition with the Wiki Campus Radio. If someone wants to hear my voice click here (even on the risk you laugh too much about it) and read here the story about it.


 * things in my mind at the moment:
 * I want to use not a regular blog system, but this page in wiki style. Probably it will not work with the Jaiku channel :-( Let's see if I am forced and must either boost it up with RSS feeds or change to another blog system.
 * I am eager to appear also on the Jaiku, so I decided to post on my other blog with RSS feed links to here, so others see me also in the list. group pressure ? ;-)
 * deadlines of posts each week are until Sunday 23:59 UTC ?
 * can people join afterwards ?
 * I fear: no
 * what licence does this pdf have ? (for citing)
 * All rights reserved. Fair use (such as citing it in context) seems ok, for other things it's probably best to ask permission from the author.
 * edit 09th March: see also Jean-Marie's post


 * edit 2008 March 4th:
 * As you can and will see, I just write here some things an continue to add more to it during the next days: wiki style. I am wondering if some of the other participants do this also like this ?
 * I am wondering, since we have in the group many teachers I might ask them one day: what do you think contributing at a public place where everyone can edit posts ? Would they think of things like: my original idea gets lost due to other persons edits ? manipulation ?
 * Do they know, that the community looks after this ? They are mostly not seen, but they are there. I am not sure if it can be compared to an invisible hand (Adam Smith) ? Do they know about ideas like: page protection ?


 * edit 2008 March 9th: see Luca, Jean-Marie, Annika, Jeanette