User:Leutha/Archive 1

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SPIR608 Queries
This is the place for your queries.Leutha 15:00, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

message from remi
hi babeRemi arnold 17:23, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi
Dear Fabian,

We changed the title of our game, it is "Operation Beria" now. May I kindly ask you to add the page Operation Beria to the design groups (it should be in the category:SPIR608/2011). Also, we tried to create nice infobox for our page, but unfortunately we failed to do so. Can you please have a look at it and edit it if it is necessarily.

Best, "First-Class Students" :)

Thanks
Thank you for your message. I'm interested in not only Ottoman Empire but also with Birtish History (especially Tudors). So, I believe in that I can help you about this area. At the same time, I can help you about wikiversity politics. See you, bye... --Bermanya 22:46, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi! "Tudor Origins of the British Empire, Rise of Protestantism" was opened today. Thanks... --Bermanya 15:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

e-Portfolio help
Just wanted to say thanks for your info on creating my own e-Portfolio page! Cheers! MichelleK 09:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

edit summary
Do you know what an edit summary is? --JWSchmidt 13:23, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

There is no page on it as such, but User:B9 hummingbird hovering mentions it on Lesson Two: Wiki and Wikiversity crashcourse. Harrypotter 14:07, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Why don't you write edit summaries for your edits? --JWSchmidt 17:23, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether User:B9 hummingbird hovering's phrase "User:B9 hummingbird hovering" quite captures the nub of the cause. Maybe it's because I'm a wikignome that I don't want to draw attention to what I am doing. If you like I could use the "This is a minor edit" button, if you feel that is appropriate. But if you want to go the whole hog, as it were, if you could produce a little Gnome to share with the community, I'm sure that not only myself, but all the other poor gnomes drawn to wikiversity would be able to play a significant role in developing the community without troubling those in the community more critical of our foibles.Harrypotter 19:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you are saying. Are you saying that when you remove content from Wikiversity learning resources you don't want to draw attention to what you are doing? When you remove content from a Wikiversity page, please provide an edit summary that explains why you are removing the content. --JWSchmidt 14:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't so much remove content but archive material which has been inactive, sometimes for as much as a year or two. If you feel it would be useful for me to put notes in the edit summary I'll try to remember
 * I am not aware of any time limit on Wikiversity page contents. If you are removing content from Wikiversity learning resources because it is "inactive" then please explain the measures of inactivity that you are using. --JWSchmidt 19:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:William Fettes Douglas - The Alchemist.jpg|thumb|right|200px| "This is my retort!" An Alchemist researching into "measures of inactivity"]]Well, I am not aware of any time limit either. Perhaps if you inquire on the Colloquium you can find out if there has been any discussion of this. As regards any "measures of inactivity" perhaps that would be better discussed here: Inactive Pages or here Inactive pages (I'm not sure which would be the most appropriate). For myself, I have not created any such measures. However feel free to propose such measures and see how others respond. As regards myself, please feel free to measure the inactivity present in each of my edits. They can be accessed here: Harrypotter's Edits. However, it may be useful to look at one example. Let's go with British Empire:

These three edits I would not regard as substantive, more like moving around the deckchairs on Marie Celeste Editor Erikgunby was kind enough to add the history tag, which I retained, so no issue there. Editor Faithlessthewonderboy has only made one edit on Wikiversity, and this was it: a reversion of the one edit from IP 169.139.98.194. So my actions in no way impinge there either. So this takes us back to Editor Jade Knight, who made an edit on 19 September 2008, a date rapidly approaching its second anniversary. I'll leave you to calculate the exact number of days which elapsed until 12 August 2010. Of course such a measure would be inadequate on its own without consideration of the content. Obviously well prepared material which had remained untouched for eons could be very useful - just think where we would be without the Rossetta Stone! One heading was nothing more than that, a hallmark of incompleteness. All told the headings had the following number of words:
 * 1) (cur | prev)  16:46, 26 July 2010 Erikgunby (Talk | contribs) (5,046 bytes) (undo)
 * 2) (cur | prev) 13:29, 30 December 2009 Faithlessthewonderboy (Talk | contribs) (5,033 bytes) (Undo revision 496876 by 169.139.98.194 (Talk)) (undo)
 * 3) (cur | prev) 11:57, 27 October 2009 169.139.98.194 (Talk) (4,567 bytes) (→Decline) (undo)


 * 1) Definition: 147
 * 2) English Imperialism as Precursor to British Imperialism: 184
 * 3) Pre-conditions for empire: 66
 * 4) First forays: 0
 * 5) Build up: 73
 * 6) Decline 79


 * Average: 91.5 words

I'm not sure how useful this figure might be in generating a measure of incompleteness, but I feel that incompleteness implies a lack of activity, and where there has not been any edits for XXX days, then if we were to multiply the quotient of incompleteness by this number of days, we might get indices of inactivity. Would this give you the sort of measure your after? Perhaps some could devise a bot to do this with all pages so that we could have the indices of inactivity placed on the talk page, perhaps updated monthly, quarterly, I don't know. . . what would you prefer? The problem I think would come from measuring incompleteness in a way which goes beyond protoscience. This seems to be an area in which you seem to already have considerable knowledge. Why not get cracking and come up with a workable conceptualisation, and then maybe someone far cleverer than me could devise the bot?Harrypotter 20:56, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Since you admit to not knowing what you are doing, I will simply revert all of your unexplained removals of content from Wikiversity learning resources. --JWSchmidt 13:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


 * You might find that highly dysfunctional. I Know exactly what I am doing - it is all recorded in my edits, to which I have referred you. However I have not applied an abstract a priori pseudo-scientific schema, which I regard as inappropriate. Please do not proceed in this fashion. Perhaps you are muddling me up with User:Erkan Yilmaz? Your friend, Leutha 15:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Portal:Psychology
Thanks for adding Motivation and Emotion to Portal:Psychology (it has been a rather neglected page). -- Jtneill - Talk - c 04:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, Harry. I'm glad to see you too. I'm happy. I returned from a short vacation. I will start working again tomorrow (About Tudors, Ottomans etc.) Good works. --Bermanya 19:44, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Dittos
Don't know about the appropriateness of this edit, but can't see much harm. Glad you stopped by, guess you could see I was struggling with my page. I have quite a bit of experience on the 'pedia, but things seem to work a little differently in the 'versity. --Ernie.cordell 18:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire course
Hi! New lesson 16th century: Growth of the Empire, Part 2, Suleiman I ("the Magnificent") was opened today. Please read this lesson and answer the quiz. Thanks... --Bermanya 14:18, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Homework
Week V: There is homework this week.

1-) Why were revolts period of Suleiman I?
 * C: People unhappy

2-) Which states were enemy of Ottoman Empire period of Suleiman I?
 * C: Hapsburg, Persia, Hungary

3-) When did Hayreddin Barbarossa become commander of Ottoman navy?
 * C: 1532

Please answer the questions. Good works... --Bermanya 14:33, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Changing username
FYI see Changing_username. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 23:49, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * 'Tis done; hope you continue to wave your magic wand here 'tho . -- Jtneill - Talk - c 11:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

m: Talk:Meetup/London/38
Hello! -- KYPark [T] 09:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Ottoman empire course
Hi! New lesson "Height of the Ottoman Empire, Part I" was opened today. Please read this lesson and answer the quiz. Thanks... --Bermanya 21:04, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you. Your work to make Portal:Game design useful for learners and educators is appreciated. -- dark lama  15:49, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

- Hi Leutha. I'm sorry, because I did not see your message on my talk page. I will interested in Anglo-Moroccan alliance, Levant Company, Anglo-Turkish piracy, thank you. I working on Height of the Ottoman Empire now, good works... --Bermanya 17:59, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello Leutha, can you help me about "Ottoman Science in 16th Century" ? For example; Astronomy, Mathematics, Physics, Geometry etc. Thanks... --Berm@nyamessage 01:31, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

mainspace name considerations
Hi, Leutha, thanks for working on the resources for game design.

I noticed, however, that you are creating pages in mainspace that would better be subpages of other pages in the game design area. For example, you have created Voting, but that topic would be quite broad and we will, I believe, have resources on the topic of voting systems, etc., whereas your page is narrow in focus. Could it be a subpage of Game mechanics, such as Game mechanics/Voting? Other pages as well might be moved similarly.

Wikibooks is organized that way, a book is a page in mainspace, and then chapters or subtopics are subpages. It keeps things tidy.... I'd be glad to help, as I can. --Abd 02:08, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

By the way, there is a trick for listing subpages that allows the main page to be moved, with the subpages, and the references stay the same. /Fun/ would create a subpage of your user talk page, but it just would display as "Fun." If the final slash is left out, it would display as "/Fun." So you don't have to list the full pagename for all the elements of game mechanics, you just place a slash before them, or before and after, and they are then referenced properly from the page above. --Abd 02:16, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it's a good idea. I have start to change some of the pages.Leutha 10:23, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Theoretical word games
One of the links is the APA paper written for my class, and has a section on a re-write of Rogers' theory which is nearly impossible to read but has been prophetic. It is American, or New World, philosophy -- truly love of knowedge (!) and not the crazy death-based stuff to come across after WWII. Our only downside was the bad behavior of Nelson Algren who became "the" American existentialist probably because of his relationship with Simone de Bouvier.

I think the process is just deconstruction and reconstruction with a wiki-bytecode in between to translate it. I deconstructed it to get all the good parts out, but in this case I now think it is way too long. Other people have attempted to rewrite Roger's model by explaining every line, which does not actually help. That has been the tendency I think for most writing about writing--no actual added value, and no critical inquiry.

If you think those two things are good goals, then I think that this deconstruction/reconstruction idea can be applied to all philosophy, such as the differences between objective and subjective. If the reconstruction is actually an assignment for a grade, then I think that students will attack it with gusto.

PS, thanks for the edit. --JohnBessatalk 23:34, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I have added the game to the archive I am working on. For myself I have been reading around the Institute of Phenomenalogical Studies which was set up in London. However three Americans played an important part Joe Berke, Leon Redler and Calvin Hernton. All three were influence by Ronnie Laing. It would interesting to see how your reconstruction works when students get the hang of it. I am keen that Versitans should share evaluation of their courses. I have done so with our recent course SPIR608 here. Leutha 10:26, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

ASGELE instructions
Create page - use search

Thank you!
You have a message at the user page of GeoBardRap 02:37, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

University projects
Hi Leutha, if you are interested in helping with university projects, it would be neat to have better links between WV and the Outreach bookshelf for universities; which was mainly written for people using Wikipedia, but is as you noted largely reusable. Times like this I wish cross-wiki transclusion were possible... –SJ + > 05:07, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

welcoming new users
I see that you are welcoming users. Thanks for helping with this. However, it seems you are welcoming users with no contributions. The tradition seems to be to only welcome users when they make an edit that is not vandalism or something inappropriate. I generally welcome people even if all they have done is to try the sandbox or create a user page with maybe their name on it, or something.

It might be interesting to study whether or not new accounts with no edits are more likely to edit if welcomed. I'm just saying that the tradition is to not welcome people on account creation alone, I'm passing it on, what was said to me by an administrator who used to do almost all the welcoming here.... and which I've been following myself.

I find the users by looking at Recent changes and seeing who has a redlink Talk page.... --Abd 23:03, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Yes I see the advantage of not troubling people with a welcome until they have done more than start a page.Leutha 11:28, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit summaries again
prior discussion. I see that you still don't use edit summaries. Lack of summaries makes it much more difficult for anyone to follow what you are doing. While nobody is obligated to use summaries, it is considered disrespectful of the time of others, and of the need for transparency, to fail to use them. It takes only moments to add some brief description. For a spelling correction, I'll mark the edit as minor and put "sp" in the summary. Good edit summaries are a mark of an experienced editor. People following Recent Changes and their Watchlist have no clue what you did if you don't provide them a summary, unless they take the time to actually look at the diff. It makes a real difference. --Abd 21:27, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for confirming that edit summaries are optional.Leutha 22:42, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Since at least a couple of users have requested, Leutha, for you to consider greater use of edit summaries, I would suggest this is worth considering, trying out, and getting some feedback about. As far as I'm aware, use of edit summaries isn't policy per se, more of a kind of wikiquette. What do you think? This is sometimes a way this suggestion can be made: edit summary

Editing tip - Using edit summaries

 * Thank you for that. I have tested the prompt and found it very effective. I have also added the information to FAQ/Editing/Edit summary.Leutha 12:30, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent, Leutha, and thanks. I learned some stuff reading that. I was unaware, for example, that one can add multiple section links to an edit summary. Way cool. --Abd 16:38, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Probationary custodianship
Hi Leutha, Yes, I would be willing and happy to mentor you for probationary custodianship, but would not act as bureaucrat (i.e., another bureaurcrat would need to approve and change the user rights), and please note that it is also a busy time of the year, but I will be around WV working with students on Motivation and emotion and am happy and willing to work with you. Would you like to self-nominate? Sincerely, James. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 23:00, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Leutha. "Self nominating" isn't at all unusual or frowned upon around here ;-), though we do need at least something on WV:RFC to officially start a mentorship. Generally the only thing the bureaucrat (probably me in this case) really needs to see is an agreement between a willing mentor and a willing candidate, but the RFC subpage needs to be there for future reference. --SB_Johnny talk 00:34, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the nudge. My wiki activities had focused on setting up this on Wikipedia just recently.Leutha 08:50, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Mentorship
Congrats, let me know if you need anything! --SB_Johnny talk 08:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Leutha, Sorry I've been flat out, with my head buried in Motivation and emotion and off-wiki realities. So, have just noticed that you're now on probationary custodianship. Fantastic. How much do you know about each of the custodian tools? Would you like to work through trying each of them out? Is there anything else I might be able to do to help out? Sincerely, James. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 11:09, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi James, Thanks. I am currently in Lithuania at a Congress, including some on WV. But will pick up Custodian issues next week.
 * Let's see, I entered this signature by holding down the alt key and entering 126, releasing the alt key, four times: Abd 17:07, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I could also copy and paste the four tildes from any place where it's given, such as here: ~ . Abd 17:09, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * There is also a signature button in the edit toolbar, here it is. It handily inserts two hyphens and four tildes: --Abd 17:12, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks Leutha 10:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Resources for Wikipedian Student Organizations
Hi, Leutha.

We're working on some resources for Wikipedian student organizations, including a page creation process to help students promote their activities on Outreach Wiki. We'd love to get your feedback. Check out outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Student_Organizations/Page_Creation_Test_Group for more information, or feel free to ping me at studentclubs at wikimedia dot org if you have questions or comments for us.

Wolliff 23:58, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Fourth Alytus Bienale
This reads like a personal essay or report, it's chatty, etc. I think this would be more appropriate for your user space, at least as it is. What do you think? --Abd 17:53, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your comment. I have discussed the matter with some other participants who I was encouraging to get involved with wikipedia, and we have agreed to remove the page.Leutha 10:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * See also Definitions, a strange page to start with, now with some interesting "definitions" related to the above.


 * Looking at What Links Here from Definitions, what I see is some Unconsideration of naming of pages. Definitions should be a subpage of Some Considerations on the Use of Simulation as a Teaching Method in ELT, and the latter page has been named as if it is an article in a journal or something. We have these structural problems all over, we never set up deep consideration of how to name pages and so we never created guidelines for it, and the result is as could be expected, chaos, which drastically lowers the utility of what's been created. Knowledge is almost useless if disconnected. --Abd 17:59, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * In a journal, the linking of an article with a title like that would be through the journal itself, which identifies, by its nature, the topic. If we had a Wikiversity Journal of ELT, for example, then the page name would become ELT/Some Considerations .... etc. Now, if I knew what ELT was, I'd be way ahead of the game.


 * We need active attention to the creation of resources, not to mention going back and cleaning up what has been created in the last five years. --Abd 18:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The "interesting definitions" on the former Definitions page -- I moved it -- are at . I'll leave it up to you if this is useful for your notes on the Alytus Bienale. Whoever wrote those was sophisticated. --Abd 18:09, 13 September 2011 (UTC)