User:Vanished user adhmfdfmykrdyr/IRC log - 17/2/2011

__NOINDEX__ '''This log is posted because the topic clearly states the log is public. This log is posted as it goes towards proving my assertion that Ottava engages in harassment. If the admins believe that this is a violation of Wikiversity policy in regards to privacy, I will accept and not protest a block. You violate the rules, you suffer the consequences. I just believe that this is not a violation as the topic clearly states the room is logged. I also believe that there is an over riding need for these logs to be public as they support my claim that Ottava uses alternative channels in order to avoid the consequences of if he was to engage in these activities on Wikiversity chat pages.'''

External public record in case of blanking absent consensus

[11:23] * Now talking in #wikiversity-en [11:23] * Topic is 'Welcome to the English Wikiversity IRC channel: http://en.wikiversity.org | For assistance ask your question and WAIT for an answer or ask at http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Colloquium | This channel is logged | Discuss http://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Sandbox_Server | CVN channel at #cvn-wv-en' [11:23] * Set by draicone!~draicone@wikimedia/Draicone on Sat Nov 27 03:39:12 [11:23] -jordan.freenode.net:#wikiversity-en- [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp [11:23] -ChanServ- [##australia] Welcome to ##australia! [11:36] * Quits: SB_Johnny (~SB_Johnny@c-68-84-74-50.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) (Quit: SB_Johnny) [11:49] * Joins: JWSchmidt (~JWSurf@ip68-2-97-159.ph.ph.cox.net) [11:49] * Quits: JWSchmidt (~JWSurf@ip68-2-97-159.ph.ph.cox.net) (Changing host) [11:49] * Joins: JWSchmidt (~JWSurf@wikia/JWSchmidt) [14:20] * Joins: Moulton1 (~Moulton@pool-68-160-132-4.bos.east.verizon.net) [14:23] * Quits: Moulton (~Moulton@pool-68-160-132-4.bos.east.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:23] * Moulton1 is now known as Moulton [14:30] * Joins: Ottava (~no@108.110.216.61) [14:30]  Laura, way to lie about me [14:31]  Id love to know the 3 people here who supposedly helped you [14:31]  Oh yeah, I've "never used my real name" and "never posted proof of credentials" when everyone here has seen them [14:33]  So, who is Dinsdale? [14:33]  Dinsdale is most likely KBlott [14:33]  After his attacks on Durova, CUs started investigating [14:33]  MuZemike hasn't been about to compare data [14:33]  so I havent had a confirmation yet [14:34]  KBlott is the only one familiar with the obscure pages on Wikiversity and matters that ended 3 years ago, such as !! [14:34]  hi Ottava [14:34]  JWSchmidt, were you one of the three people that supposedly helped Laura form something that basically lies about me? [14:34]  Hell, my real name account posted in the Deletion discussion about edits regarding the account [14:35]  everyone here participated in it [14:35]  I had nothing to do with this "Community Review" [14:35]  Well, she claims 3 people from IRC did [14:35]  Everyone here was involved in the deletion discussion of my edits [14:35] <JWSchmidt> I noticed that I made some comments in an IRC log that she posted [14:36] <Ottava> so they also saw my academic transcript verifying my multple masters and my dissertation for my phd [14:37] <Ottava> I do love how she claims I chased away people yet I rarely post, and how I am awful in chat yet I am rarely in chat [14:37] <Ottava> or how there is "new" material which is all from 9 months ago [14:38] <JWSchmidt> Ottava: you are on the "shit list"...you have a target painted on you [14:38] <Ottava> No, I am on Jtneill's revenge list [14:38] <Ottava> as Laura is one of his friends from school [14:38] <Ottava> I love this one [14:39] <Ottava> Ottava threatened Stanistani with loss of cooperation: " I also find it strange how you can defend a user who has proven to stalk multiple users at Wikiversity irl and do such over a 3 year period. If you honestly feel that such behavior is acceptable, then you can be certain that I could never work with you," [14:39] <Ottava> Oh no, heaven forbid me saying tha I can't work with someone who doesn't make me comfortable! [14:39] <Ottava> what a "threat" [14:39] <LauraHale> I've talked to JTNeil three times. [14:39] <Ottava> Stop with the lies, Laura [14:39] <Ottava> you threw a temper tantrum because of what I said about Jtneill [14:39] <LauraHale> I'd argue that you and I are better friends Ottava than JTNeil and I are. [14:39] <LauraHale> Nope. [14:40] <Ottava> all the bullshit started when you went crazy over me confronting him over abuse [14:40] <Ottava> stop the bullshit [14:40] <Ottava> I did -nothing- to you [14:40] <Ottava> and yet you lie about me [14:40] <Ottava> There is a warm spot in hell for those like you [14:41] <LauraHale> Ottava: I can tell you honestly, I've met JTneill three times. The first was when he helped print posted for RCC Canberra 2010. The second time was at RCC 2011. The third time was this week when I asked him to find a local Wikipedian to present with me at Wiki Sport Academy. [14:41] <Ottava> and Laura, you are violating our policies by posting logs, which is an actual rule violation unlike anything you claim of me [14:41] <LauraHale> Ottava: I'm going to post this log. [14:41] <Ottava> and yes, I have brought far more people to Wikiversity than you have [14:41] <Ottava> go ahead, it will be OS'd by Stewards [14:41] <LauraHale> To support my claim of harrassment and of making unfounded allegations against me. [14:41] <Ottava> and if you keep it up, they can emergency block you [14:41] <LauraHale> Ottava: This is not meant as a personal thing. [14:42] <Ottava> No, it is personal, you are a cry baby with a vendetta [14:42] <Ottava> you have nothing real [14:42] <LauraHale> Ottava: If they emergency block me, I will fully accept it and I won't protest it. [14:42] <Ottava> so you make up bullshit to smear people [14:42] <Ottava> you ae a disgrace [14:42] <Ottava> you are a whiney liar unable to cope with reality [14:42] <Ottava> Oh, I chase people away because I do nothing but keep to my own work and welcome people? [14:42] <Ottava> Where do you get such nonsense from? [14:43] <Ottava> Did you get dropped on your head? [14:43] <LauraHale> Ottava: And I realize that posting that, it could be seen as a personal attack on you. It wasn't intended to be that. Rather, it was intended to be a conversation about the value of your contributions versus expanding participation on Wikiversity. [14:43] <Ottava> Laura, every single sentence you wrote contains lies [14:43] <Ottava> things you -know- are lies [14:43] <LauraHale> Ottava: Can you tell me who will be blocking me? I'm not really familiar with how these things work. [14:43] <Ottava> If a steward has to repeatedly OS content then they block [14:44] <Moulton> People! You can't fight in here! This is the War Room. [14:44] <LauraHale> Ottava: I had my site blacklisted from Wikipedia. I didn't protest that. So when I say I would accept whatever the community consensus was in terms of consequences for my posting that, I have evidence of that in relation to my involvement with WMF. [14:44] <LauraHale> Ottava: What steward would do that? [14:44] <Ottava> It is standard protocol [14:44] <LauraHale> Ottava: Standard protocol for what? [14:44] <Ottava> OS deals with privacy related matters, which includes chat logs and emails [14:45] <Moulton> Eastern Standard Protocol. [14:45] <Ottava> How can you say you teach about wikis to people and don't know these things? [14:45] <Moulton> They adopted it in Maryland about 75 years ago. [14:45] <LauraHale> Ottava: Please file that emergency request. [14:45] <LauraHale> Ottava: WMF =/= Wikis. [14:45] <Ottava> I don't tneed to "file" anything [14:45] <Ottava> You proport to teach about Wikiversity, which is a wiki and WMF [14:45] <LauraHale> Ottava: So confused. [14:46] <LauraHale> Ottava: I'm not teaching much about Wikiversity. I don't know where you get the idea that I am teaching a lot about Wikiversity. [14:46] <Moulton> Confusion is the first step toward Enlightenment. [14:46] <Ottava> You said it the other day [14:46] <LauraHale> Ottava: Prove it as I didn't. [14:46] <LauraHale> The onus is on you to prove the affirmative. [14:47] <Ottava> Okay, Laura, so what was your meetup the other day where you said you gave a presentation on Wikiversity? [14:47] <Ottava> and linked to videos about it? [14:47] <Ottava> and went on and on about how you were promoting Wikiversity? [14:47] <Moulton> Welcome to Level 3 Skandalon. [14:48] <LauraHale> Ottava: I haven't given any presentation on Wikiversity. [14:48] <Ottava> Are you saying you don't promote wikiversity? That all of your claims about don't actually deal with us? Are you really going to claim that you don't really do anything for Wikiversity? [14:48] <LauraHale> Ottava: Please provide evidence that I have. [14:48] <Ottava> If so, then you undermine all of your claims [14:48] <Ottava> two options, neither make you look good [14:48] <LauraHale> Ottava: Wikiversity =/= All Wikis Everywhere. [14:48] <Ottava> You claim to want to work with Wikiversity yet you do nothing [14:48] <Ottava> odd [14:49] <Moulton> Welcome to the Wikiversity Post-Modern Theater of the Absurd. [14:49] <Ottava> you attack those who put in work, who actually recruit [14:49] <Ottava> and then make up claims about not being able to get people [14:49] <LauraHale> Ottava: You can support yourself by stopping with the harrassment of me. you can support yourself by proving that I am a liar. you can help yourself by proving I am BFFs with JTNeill. [14:49] <Ottava> when, as you revealed, you never have tried to get anyone [14:49] <Ottava> Harassment of you? You harassed me [14:49] <LauraHale> Moulton: That's pretty much it. [14:49] <Moulton> Tonight's sketch features Narcissistic Wounding. [14:49] <Ottava> I never respond to you on Wiki [14:49] <Ottava> I dont follow you [14:49] <LauraHale> Ottava: you're in here attacking me. [14:49] <Ottava> I ignore you [14:49] <Ottava> that is not the same with you [14:49] <Ottava> No, I am defending my reputation against your libel [14:49] <Ottava> Your lies [14:49] <LauraHale> Ottava: Yet you attack me here. [14:50] <LauraHale> Ottava: And yet you ie about me too. [14:50] <LauraHale> And libel is a legal term. [14:50] <Ottava> Attacking you for attacking me isn't an attack [14:50] <Ottava> It is a response [14:50] <Ottava> you can't beat someone up and if they punch you claim that you are defending yourself! [14:50] <Moulton> Folks, it's a knock-down, drag-out Ego-Bruiser here. [14:50] <LauraHale> Ottava: That is your view on it. [14:50] <Ottava> It is as if you are disconnected from all logic and sanity [14:50] <Moulton> The haphazard theories of mind are flyiing fast and thick. [14:51] <LauraHale> Ottava: As this is your defense of yourself to my accusations, will you agree again that these logs are public? [14:51] <Ottava> No, stop with the harassing of others [14:51] <Ottava> We have rules [14:51] <Ottava> try to follow them sometime [14:51] <Moulton> Ottava just pinned Laura with page 184 of DSV-IV! Will she rip that page out and stuff it in his mouth? [14:51] <Moulton> Ottava goes for the Rules == Chaos Gambit. [14:52] <Moulton> Poincare cheers. [14:52] <Moulton> Edward Lorenz yawns. [14:52] <Moulton> Benoit Mandelbrot turns over in his grave. [14:52] <LauraHale> Ottava: I shall post anyway. If I get banned, so be it. I am willing to suffer that consequence. [14:52] <Moulton> Suffering! [14:52] <Ottava> Laura, you know our rules yet do it any way to harass [14:52] <Ottava> That is a serious problem [14:53] <Moulton> There it is folks. We have Empathy. We have Mutual Suffering. [14:53] <Moulton> Will they feel each others pain? [14:53] <LauraHale> Ottava: I will suffer the consequences. As you called me a liar and made other statements about me that I've denied and that you refuse to prove affirmatives for, I'm going to ignore you. [14:53] <Moulton> Will the suffering escalate or subside? The crowd is on the edge of their seats here in Schadenfreude Theater. [14:53] <Ottava> Laura, you lied about me [14:54] <LauraHale> [11:23] * Topic is 'Welcome to the English Wikiversity IRC channel: http://en.wikiversity.org | For assistance ask your question and WAIT for an answer or ask at http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Colloquium | This channel is logged [14:54] <Ottava> You lied about getting help from the chat because everyone here knows the facts about me which directly contradict 60% of your claims [14:54] <Ottava> and the topic isnt Wikiversity [14:54] <Ottava> IRC does not override Wikiversity policy [14:54] <Ottava> nor is IRC Wikiversity