User talk:6500jmk4

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 Hi , I am Percy. Nice to meet you. I love the beach, swimming, fishing, and I am currently doing some research at Wikiversity on oceanography. I am also learning to play piano. What do you like? Can I be your mascot?

Suggestions
Dear 6500jmk4! I see we will see a lot of new resources from you. To ease further navigation and decrease the need for additional corrections please consider these suggestions:
 * 1) move the the main page to the mainspace from your userspace - if you do so, the people could find it more easily, also because of the content it belongs there. you can copy-paste to a new page or use the "move" button/tab
 * 2) Categorize your pages - everything will be in one place
 * 3) Link pages to the main page of the module - again it eases navigation for you and any future users/ contributors
 * 4) if you have any questions, just ask me

Wishes, --Gbaor 13:55, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

About a deleted page
I came across a neglected undeletion request at Requests for deletion. Since the IP editor who created that page made substantial edits to your user page, I'm making a guess that the user might be or have been a student of yours. The editor claimed that the subject page was for a class, for extra credit. Although I have not seen the actual text yet -- I cannot, because I am not a custodian -- I believe it likely that the page was improperly deleted, which is why I've made the deletion request prominent. It's a shame that this user was not assisted, but the way the request was placed made it very easy to overlook. It should definitely be possible to obtain a copy of the text, even if for some reason the page is not undeleted. Any custodian could do that, and most will, on request. I've requested that if the page is not speedily undeleted, that it be "userfied," which would mean that a copy would be placed in my user space, so anyone could read it. I'm also emailing you, assuming that you have set your account to enable email.

I apologize on behalf of Wikiversity for the deletion. In the future, you might want to advise your students to register an account! And if you had nothing to do with this, well, this user made a lot of changes to your user page! Maybe you should look! --Abd 22:53, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I've looked around more and have seen more. I see that above it was suggested by a long-time Wikiversitan that you restructure how you do this, in a way that might avoid future problems and be more useful for Wikiversity and perhaps yourself, and it will fit better with how the rest of Wikiversity is organized. And I intend to implement that if you (or someone else) doesn't object. This is what I will do, without objection:
 * I will move your user page to 18th century European scholarly societies and academies. (Though it will be a bit of work, this title can be changed later if a better resource title is found; this is basically your project and I'm just trying to assist.)
 * I will move all the pages created as part of your project to subpages of that page. So, for example, Aberdeen Philosophical Society will become 18th century European scholarly societies and academies/Aberdeen Philosophical Society.
 * Redirects to the new locations will automatically be created.
 * I will create a new user page for you with a pointer to that new resource page, simply noting the fact that this content was moved there, replacing the automatic redirect, but still allowing people to find that content if they look for it in the old place. You may, of course, change this at any time.

I've noticed a few things that happened during this course that really shouldn't have happened, and I apologize for that. Things get a little ragged sometimes, everyone is trying to help, and mistakes get made. Please let me know if I can help in any way, I really appreciate that you chose to use Wikiversity as you did, and to be fully and maximally useful, it just needs a little tweaking.

I will repeat my suggestion that you indicate to your students that they may have a better experience here if they register and use a named account. It makes it much easier to follow their contributions, and they get a number of advantages, such as a watchlist that will notify them of changes to watched pages, a user Talk page that can be used to discuss issues that arise, etc. I get, for example, an email notification of any edit to my user page. It's very convenient! One of the problems I saw was that one of your students, as an anonymous IP editor, the same one whose page was deleted, replaced page content with a link to the WP article, which was a proper edit, indeed, but someone patrolling for vandalism, saw it and reverted it, because of how it looked casually. Had this been a named account, this probably wouldn't have happened; instead the edit was treated as if it were vandalism, and that wasn't noticed until today, by me.

You could, very practically, follow all the contributions of your students who have named accounts. That gets much harder if they edit anonymously. --Abd 00:40, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for doing this. It was very helpful.  I hadn't realized that we could create sub-pages, which makes all the difference.  It's much better this way.  I didn't realize that students could make changes anonymously.  I had asked them to register.  FYI, the way that the overall scheme is set up, students will be working on this site over multiple semesters, adding and editing as they go along.  Once I see an entry that is good enough, we will move it over to Wikipedia.

--6500jmk4 17:40, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Great. Thanks. I'll think about, and ask about, what should be done when you move an article to Wikipedia. The articles should not simply be copied, because that will lose the edit history, there is an import feature that sysops can use. I'm not a sysop at this point, but just ask me on my Talk page and I'll help get it done.
 * It's possible, by the way, that a student registered an account but then just didn't log in.... Since they are creating pages for credit, it should really be important for them to log in, so the edits are credited to them and not to, as in the case I ran across that led me to this whole situation, 98.220.61.193. That might look nice on a diploma, though, eh? --Abd 22:01, 12 September 2010 (UTC)