User talk:Atcovi/Archive 1

About your signature
But first, about your reaction to Jtneill's comment. I'm sorry that your feelings were hurt. However, he was just brief. I.e., don't do what he said not to do. You have a stated intention on your user page to:
 * Move a page that is need of info into my userspace

Basically, please don't do that. If someone created a page in mainspace, unless it is truly inappropriate for mainspace (not merely undeveloped), please leave it there. You can work on a mainspace page where it is, you don't need to have it in your user space. Or, as Jtneill suggested, you can copy it into your user space. However, if you do copy it, it's better that the edit history be with what you copy. So you'd link to the permanent version of what you copied. If you need help doing that, ask me.

But it's simplest just to work on it where it is.

Now, you still have your former signature, you have, I assume, set this in your Preferences. So your edits now have three apparently different user names, i..e, your original name, your old pseudonym, and the name in history. That could be confusing to people, and some people, when they get confused, think something is wrong. It upsets them. So I suggest you try the default signature. Just blank the new signature box, uncheck wikitext, and save it.

And have a great day! --Abd (discuss • contribs) 15:06, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Readings

 * http://kids.nationalgeographic.com/kids/
 * http://www.sciencenews.org/view/interest/id/3/topic/Science_News_For_Kids
 * http://www.sciencenewsforkids.org/

You would like viewing these. - Sidelight12 Talk 03:53, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I am already using the recommended links that you gave me! --Aaqib talk 16:33, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. - Sidelight12 Talk 06:32, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Try picking out any article, then summarize it in 1 to 3 sentences. This can be added to Wikiversity, and leave the website link behind the entry. You don't have to do this, but it would be a good practice. - Sidelight12 Talk 11:02, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

If you have time
You had expressed concern about the loss of resources created by User:Fasten. That user had requested deletion of his pages, as (generally) the only author. The speedy deletion tags he had placed, just before giving notice that he was retiring, were removed by another user, a probationary custodian, on the grounds that no reason had been given, and that there was a consensus to keep the files. However, that was a Colloquium discussion, and did not attract any major participation -- just you and him -- and deletion policy is normally to speedy delete pages on a sole-author request. So, to make it possible to consider this issue, I have created Category:Fasten deletion request and have added that category to some of the pages. I've explained this on the category page. If you'd like to help, you could add that category to some of the pages. If you have any questions, ask. Don't make a lot of edits until you are sure it's working! Thanks.

(Notice that, to prevent placing your talk page in the category, I added a colon at the beginning of the category link!)

I consider it rude to not honor his request. However, we do sometimes decide to keep pages where the user requested deletion, but it normally takes a discussion at RFD, and a big fuss. The issues can be complicated, but tagging the files so we can discuss it easily isn't complicated. Just a bit of work. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:41, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Advice on spam
Hi Aaqib/Goldenburg111!

You asked, "Is any kind of website that is not appropriate or needed such as a blog website spam?"

To me "spam" is "irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent on the Internet to a large number of recipients." It's often a form of advertising. "Irrelevant" has a legal definition. "Inappropriate" may require a consensus.

The Wikiversity resource How to be a Wikimedia sysop/Wikiversity/Deletion has some good comments on spam.

I guess a blog is "a Web site on which an individual or group of users produces an ongoing narrative." A blog website may be appropriate and needed depending on content.

So based on this. The answer to your question, "Is any kind of website that is not appropriate or needed such as a blog website spam?" is "No". An inappropriate or unneeded blog website whose contributors are not spamming or committing other crimes is cool! I hope this helps! --Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 00:39, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi!
hi goldenburg--Falis (discuss • contribs) 00:10, 4 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Eh, I'm not Dave. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 21:57, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know.

Book
The readings I posted to your book subpage may be a challenge. You don't have to use them, just try to read what interests you. - Sidelight12 Talk 00:04, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I love challenges, and thanks! --Goldenburg111 (talk) 00:42, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
Please report vandalism through Request custodian action so the IP address can be blocked. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 01:41, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure thing! --Goldenburg111 (talk) 02:09, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Trouble separating workspace from final products.
I started a page with a poor name at the address: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Phy1050Vandegrift I tried to put "userspace draft" on the first page and tried to establish it as a workspace. Now I have a polished version of it at this address: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Why_the_Sky_is_Dark_at_Night Am I doing this right? (Needless to say, I just copied and pasted most of the prose from wikipedia articles without referencing them. Is that OK?)  Forgot my signature --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 23:07, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

The meaning of User:[username]
Thanks for explaining that User:[username] in the filename informs everybody that the project is under construction. When the page is ready, how do I relabel it? --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 16:18, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

THANKS
Thanks for all your help. I have been on wikiversity for about a week, and you have helped me greatly.--Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 19:40, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Now here is an interesting question about letting outsiders into the wiki process:
Is it OK to give students access to my User page? I am writing the Quantum Mechanics unit for a course, and I don't want to be constantly modifying their "textbook". There are two ways I can put "frozen" version of the article online for the students to read:

1. Save the file as a pdf and post it. This is time consuming but secure, since they can't edit it.

2. Create a Permanent Link and post that on a server that only my students can get to. That is almost painless for me. I just did by creating the following link: https://pilot.wright.edu/d2l/le/content/212488/viewContent/688800/View?ou=212488

If you go to that link you will see that they can move to later versions and edit it if they want. But then anybody can edit wikis. I never realized how much the wiki concept depends on the basic goodness of almost everybody. It seems to me that method #2 is in the spirit of wikipedia. (I only have about 10 students)

links on your page out of date
hey friend -- I noticed your two links on your main to the two pages you are helping me with are out of date. I don't understand wiki ediquite - do you upgrade or do I?--Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 12:28, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, I'll fix it. And try to upgrade yourself so the community will favor you more! --goldenburg (talk) 13:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

What is a User book page?
A while back you wrote: ":::I prefer you use a User book page :) --goldenburg (talk) 19:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC)" -- Were you referring to Wikibooks? --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 01:47, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Appropriate use of Permanent Link?
Is it OK that in https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Why_is_the_sky_dark_at_night#Cosmic_distance_ladder I inserted this reference:  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_supernova_observation&oldid=570635341 ?


 * Sure! --goldenburg (talk) 15:55, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I also post Permanent Links on the server to the students. Nobody has committed sabotage, but after I showed a class how to edit pages, one of them used his cell phone to write "I like ice cream" on the page, much to the delight of me and the rest of the class.  I am confident you know what to do in the unlikely event that somebody makes real trouble. --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 17:40, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Plan to rename Old Quantum Mechanics
I plan to remove User: from https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User:Guy_vandegrift/Old_Quantum_Mechanics. Let me know if I do anything wrong. --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 21:00, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Please don't, Its not allowed. --goldenburg (talk) 21:01, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Will not do! (Glad I asked).  --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 21:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Anything you need, just ask me! :) --goldenburg (talk) 21:06, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * You guys are doing a great job! --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 21:21, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * What do you mean "You guys"? --goldenburg (talk) 21:22, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * 3 entities: You, somebody named Darklama, and all the others who are keeping Wikiversity alive. --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 22:23, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Can I copy and paste this book into Wikiversity? http://www.anselm.edu/internet/physics/cbphysics/ ? The copyright notice reads ''Copyright 2005-2008, Jeffrey W. Schnick, Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike License 3.0. See http://creativecommons.org/'' --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 22:14, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Administrator
Hi Goldenburg111!

Thank you for your kind compliment!

Unfortunately my available time is already stretched pretty thin. There's a one-year probationary period followed by a popularity assessment. In addition, there is knowledge acquisition of a great many tools and responsibilities. It's not an easy or necessarily fun job. But, it is a necessity. I will continue to think about it. --Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 22:15, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

How do I start the task of improving a college-level physics text?
One of my favorite open source textbooks is in word format: http://www.anselm.edu/internet/physics/cbphysics/ ? The copyright notice reads ''Copyright 2005-2008, Jeffrey W. Schnick, Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike License 3.0. See http://creativecommons.org/'' --Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 22:14, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I just found his attribute requirements and they look pretty nice: http://www.anselm.edu/internet/physics/cbphysics/howtoAttribute.html -- Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 23:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

And there are a couple of wikibooks that look like good candidates. Do I edit on their sites or do I create my own User version of them?--Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 23:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Better to create your own version! --goldenburg (talk) 00:39, 15 November 2013 (UTC)