User talk:Atcovi/Archive 2

User category not needed
Goldenburg, added a category identifying the user for a user space file. That's extra, not needed, just as we would not create a Category:Mainspace and add it to all Mainspace pages. I've removed the category. Thanks for your efforts to help this user. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 13:42, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh, sorry for adding extra work. Okay. --goldenburg (talk) 15:19, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, Goldenburg. You are on Wikiversity for your own training as well as to help. Your education is our most important product. You are absolutely worth whatever time it takes. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 16:20, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --goldenburg (talk) 20:19, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Pagename style
See WV:MOS on article name style, which generally follows Wikipedia. We can do something different, but having consistent style reduces extra work. However, there is also Naming_conventions, which somewhat conflicts. I'm referring to your move of Why is the sky dark at night to Why is the Sky Dark at Night. Personally, I'd put a question mark in that title and use sentence case. It's a sentence, a question! This page should really be a subpage of some subject page. We don't have a lot of consistency on that, we don't provide clear guidance on page naming, so we have all kinds of ways that it has been done, and few people helping. We never did the work to clearly set policies in most cases. Policies, if they are understood as flexible, can be very useful in making it easy to know what to do. I do agree that a School can set standards, and a family of pages in a resource can use something nonstandard.

Consider: if we collect resources and link them under some larger topic, it will look strange if some are in sentence case and some are in title case. If we don't have a standard, some users will change pages one way and other users will change pages in the opposite direction. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 00:22, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

The Ocean Floor
Hi Goldenburg111!

I enjoyed reading your book, "Oceanography The Ocean Floor". May I ask your intended audience? And, when do you believe it will be ready for resource space? Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 22:51, 16 November 2013 (UTC)


 * What glee! I am very pleased your interested in the book. I believe that it will be ready for the audience when I'm finished with the book and done with making sure it is as perfect as it can be, because they're are a few "loosen bolts" here and there. I am guessing next year, it will be ready for resource space. And may I ask, how should it look if it is ready for resource space? --goldenburg (talk) 22:55, 16 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I like it too ---Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 02:46, 17 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! :) --goldenburg (talk) 16:50, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Propose Deletion
When a resource has been around for awhile without objection, it's probably better to propose deletion and give users 90 days to improve the educational value of a resource before deleting it. Rather than, you can use. It takes a little longer to remove the resource, but it solves many issues in terms of notice and potential objections. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 23:09, 19 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure, thanks! --goldenburg111 (talk) 23:16, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Re: Talk @ Topic Tamil
வணக்கம்! Hi... Thanks for visiting the page, I can't exactly get the second phrase you've said there! I understand it is translated (using Google? or some software!) kindly let me know the same in English... [post your reply here itself, I'll watch this page until our conversation ends] Regards, --Narasimhavarman10 (discuss • contribs) 08:42, 25 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh man, you found out! I don't speak Tamil, but my parents do! :); Well, anyway, I'll reply to you on the page :) --goldenburg111 (talk) 23:33, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

User:Denial/Aqib Sochal
Can you provide context / background information for the deletion request at User:Denial/Aqib Sochal? I'm having trouble reconciling your request to delete a file from user space of another user. Can User:Denial make / confirm the request? -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 02:10, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


 * User:Denial was my alternative account, I, for some reason, created the page. So, I, as the owner of User:Denial, I would like to request deletion of the page. And, no, User:Denial cannot confirm the request because he is globally locked. Please, if you need proof, just ask Abd. Thanks! --goldenburg111 (talk) 17:56, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Take a look at.
 * But most importantly see . That is the request that may have led to the global locking of Denial, or to Goldenberg's idea that it was locked. Toolserver has become quite unresponsive, the global contributions tools don't seem to work, and it's difficult to check this stuff now. There is, however, no global account "Denial," that I could find, There appears to be no record of a lock for Denial in the global account log.
 * Goldenberg, have you actually tried to log into Denial? Do you still have the password? --Abd (discuss • contribs) 21:22, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Technically, the checkuser reports do not confirm that Goldenburg111 (under the names he was known by then) was actually our User:Denial. That's because the identification would have been made on the basis of a shared classroom computer, indistibuishable to checkuser, and there is some sign that others from his class did edit Wikiversity. However, it is reasonably safe to assume that his claim is correct. Denial has not edited since the period of those checkuser requests. I do not know as a fact that Denial is globally locked.
 * I argued on meta that these global locks were inappropriate and unnecessary. They were, in fact, contrary to policy. But that's not necessarily visible to a steward fielding a request from what appears to be a good-faith user protecting the WikiMedia projects. All they had to see was some edits that looked like vandalism, and a claim of "cross-wiki," no matter how slender. When I look back at what happened, with my concern expressed to the user, see User_talk:Jacklover1, presented on meta (in the first link above) as if this were a true complaint about sock puppetry, thus actionable, I start to get angry. I was a custodian here, effectively handling the situation, reducing and eventually eliminating damage, and engaging with and helping the user, and taking flak from those who didn't like it. So 'nuff for now. We won, that's enough. Those people vanished -- or were banned. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 21:22, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


 * This is weird, I keep entering the password, but it won't accept it! Huh... guess I only have this account :/
 * And I used Denial on a school computer, when I was younger, I used to go on Wikiversity. I used Denial as an account, and again, Denial can't confirm the deletion. --goldenburg111 (talk) 21:42, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Adolf Hitler Project
Please start working on the project at 5:30pm, so we can balance time. Please us Wikipedia and other sources! --Goldenburg111 Number2 (discuss • contribs) 17:53, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I am planning for Thanksgiving, fine! I'll hold it back. --goldenburg111 (talk) 17:59, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Reply at talk page. --goldenburg111 (talk) 16:53, 27 November 2013 (UTC)