User talk:BHickey75

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You do not need to be an educator to edit. You only need to be bold to contribute and to experiment with the sandbox or your userpage. See you around Wikiversity! --Joey Cross (discuss • contribs) 15:13, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

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Welcome Brian! -Joey Cross (discuss • contribs) 15:13, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Comments on Confucius thoughts
The comparison with the Dunning-Kruger effect is super helpful. Is there a reliable/reputable online resource you could link to that gets into the Dunning-Kruger effect in more detail?

What about the first part of the saying about understanding, that understanding means recognizing that you understand? I guess this goes without saying, but it is interesting to me that Confucius does not just focus on the challenging idea about understanding when you don't understand....he states the obvious (or what appears to be the obvious) first. Maybe think through some examples of what it means to recognize that you understand something, and try to devise a hypothetical scenario where somebody understands something, but doesn't recognize that they do! What kind of knowledge would that be? The second quote you give might be relevant to this in fact:

Re: the second quote: I agree with your criticism of this! Not sure exactly what Confucius means by this being inferior knowledge. A lot seems to bank on how to connect the first sentence with the second. Would we agree that achieving something without knowledge means copying it and selecting the "good point" from someone else? I'm not even sure what he means by the "good point."

It might be worth defining what Confucius means by "knowledge." It might be the same as "understanding," which is another key term that I have selected by the project. When we read Plato, we will see (I think) examples of a certain kind of knowledge that the Greeks called techne (where we get our words "technique" and "technical," etc.), which refers to the kind of knowledge that is a "know how" that comes from practice and produces a kind of skill...like being able to build a chair, or brew beer. Not sure if that is relevant for this, but it might be worth keeping in mind.

-Joey Cross (discuss • contribs) 13:09, 15 October 2020 (UTC)