User talk:Brett Johnston/sandbox/Pedagogy Lectures

Purpose
I was wondering what the advantage is of having Lectures in Pedagogy vs: As with Schools, Wikiversity had something like 10,000 categories, most of which didn't have much of a hierarchy and with duplicate purposes. There was a cleanup several years ago. See Category Review and that page's history for more information.
 * 1) Pedagogy Lectures
 * 2) Separate categories for Pedagogy and Lectures

I also want to alert you to a historical issue with Wikiversity organization. According to Help:Lecture, pages tagged as lectures should be subpages of a larger project. The pages you've tagged as lectures could be lectures, but it also means someone needs to create the base landing page to support the lecture.

Also, are you familiar with mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)? This may be a way to address categories such as this, where we are combining two categories. A DynamicPageList can be created with the intersection of those categories, avoiding the need for an additional category. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 17:36, 22 April 2020 (UTC)


 * as I mentioned in education talk, The intention was that I was looking for a concise use of the term pedagogy beyond the key overused terms: education and learning. The main objective here is to use the categorization tool to identify a collection that can allow interested editors to come through from either end for curation. I realize that many of the initial article selections will not be suitable, but they can still allow for purposeful interest from the original curators. It is an open and freer strategy /model that opposes something of what you suggest. If you want to bury this strategy, let me know. As I went along, I thought about the clutter of this strategy and I looked for a development strategy that does not progress into too many idiosyncratic difficulties — as you suggested in several threads. "Lectures in pedagogy" was simply because "Pedagogy lectures" did not seem correct to me. However, I did not go far enough not to be able to switch to Education/Lectures or Pedagogy/Lectures if preferred. I'm mostly interested in generating better curation tools. Brett Johnston (discuss • contribs) 03:11, 23 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I guess I'm just not understanding the purpose or value. Why wouldn't we just select all pages that are in both categories? If it truly is a pedagogy lecture, a resource should be in both categories. If it is in both categories, it can be selected using something like:

 category=Pedagogy category=Lectures 
 * If we're looking to limit the list further, we could have an additional category with Featured resources or even Featured educational resources. This seems to me to be much more flexible and extensible. Having a category for Pedagogy/Lectures works, but doesn't seem any better than Pedagogy Lectures, and doesn't make those pages available directly as Lectures. What am I missing? -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 13:54, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * this solution is acceptable:

 category=Pedagogy category=Lectures 
 * I was purposing categories as clean-up and task tags to start collecting pedagogy worthy lists, but that solution suits me. Thanks! Brett Johnston (discuss • contribs) 07:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)