User talk:Clockworks

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created category for two dimensional vector calculus
After suggesting that we request permission, I decided to just make the category. I am 99% sure this is all proper.--guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 17:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Be bold! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 19:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I am to bold. So that's why I am taking a wikibreak :p --Goldenburg111 00:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Summer plans
Hello - it's weird to write when we see each other every day, but we should use this page to keep track of our projects. I suggest two main projects for you:

Organize Astronomy before the class starts on June 23
Lets start by establishing the following format (which I will show you when we meet): ===/Title of a reading/=== /Title of a reading quiz/ ===/Title of the next reading/=== /Title of the next reading quiz/ Note: When the page is a permalink to a Wikipedia article, it has to look like ===[http...(permalink)|Title of article]===. ✅--guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 16:57, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Also, when you move a page, you need to know about two pages on Wikiversty:  Special:DoubleRedirects  | Special:PrefixIndex  | Category:Candidates for speedy deletion |  Special:WhatLinksHere

Prepare the second semester Physics equations before August 25
This involves chapters 18 through 27. Ideally you should solve all the wikiquizzes for those chapters. A few solutions are already available. I don't know if you or (I should write the solutions. I am particular about how those solutions should look, but you probably have better handwriting than me.

A variety of minor projects to do as we do the 'Big Two'

 * 1) Talk to the bookstore about ordering copies of openstax Physics as it will be used for phy2400 phy2410, phy1110, and phy1112.✅--guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 16:57, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Get started on How things work before August 25. That course will be offered this Fall, but if Physics equations ready to go by September 1, then it will be easy to write How things work during the semester, especially if the first one or two units are already prepared.
 * 3) Make 3 hard copies of openstax Physics. I have already started and am up to Chapter 4.  We should try to average one chapter per day.
 * 4) Get someone in IT to get you access to my WSU website. We will post the Physics equations  wikiquiz solutions there instead of on Pilot so that Wikiversity can access them.
 * 5) Once we have a few wikiquizzes from Physics equations posted on the WSU website and linked from Wikiversity, we should esquire about instead posting these handwritten solutions on wikimedia.org as open source images. I don't know if that is appropriate, since these images have absolutely no value to anybody but us. --guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 11:14, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Another option occurred to me last night: What if you just wrote, coded, and posted wikiquizzes?  You could do this for me and for Doni, who is teaching an advanced Thermodynamics code.  The three of us would collaborate, with me just making suggestions.  I would take the lead on rewriting Astronomy and Physics equations second semester (you would do the wikiquizzes for second semester physics).  What do you think?--guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 12:05, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I started the wikiquiz for you to code using Java here: User:Guy_vandegrift/sandbox01 .--guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 01:52, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Two wikiquizzes that need testing
If you get the time, verify one or two of the following wikiquizzes: Then remove the comment "these questions have not been verified"--guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 22:28, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Physics equations/18-Electric charge and field/Q:findE
 * 2) Physics_equations/18.1-CALCULUS_and_field_theory/Q:lineCharges (moved page; see next link)
 * 3) Physics_equations/18.1-CALCULUS_and_Coulomb's_Law/Q:lineCharges
 * 4) Physics_equations/18-Electric_charge_and_field/Q:lineChargesCALCULUS (moved again)

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Physics_equations/18-Electric_charge_and_field/Q:lineChargesCALCULUS --guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 20:00, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * This is the link to the line charge "close" wikiquiz:


 * see also Help:Quiz --guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 20:03, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Conceptual randomizer works
Hi user:Clockworks,

Your randominzer for the conceptual wikiquizzes seems to work. Two more steps are needed:
 * 1) also randomize the questions.
 * 2) create slightly less that 26 versions (labeled, for example D through Z).

These randomized version will reside on a subpage to the wikiquiz for instructors and students to see. On the conceptual questions, randomization is through order of questions and answers. On the numeric questions, randomization is only in the input and output numerical values, not the order in which the questions are given.

Here is a "fake" version of this testbank. At the top of the following wikiquiz is a link to a test bank that, unfortunately, only repeats versions A, B ,C. We need new questions all the way up to Z:


 * Physics_equations/09-Statics_and_Torque/Q:torques

To use either the conceptual or numerical testbank, the instructor would first randomly select a version through the TOC. This version would then be copied and pasted into the instructor's sandbox. The instructor would view the quiz in preview mode, highlight the quiz, copy, and paste into a word document. Then, delete the test BEFORE SAVING so that it does not appear on a history page. After some minor editing the word document is ready to be used on as a quiz.--guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 20:23, 1 July 2014 (UTC) ...er, that would be as a quiz--guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 20:26, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Both tasks: "Randomizing the Questions" and "support multiple versions," are almost trivially easy. I will have a patch ready by Thursday. Clockworks (discuss • contribs) 20:30, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * But keep the answers-only randomizer code. It helps when I write a quiz to not worry about where the correct answer goes. For example, it often helps to start a multiple choice question with the right answer first.--guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 22:06, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

It works!
I am at the moment happy because I just randomized the answers to this test: Astronomy_college_course/Kepler/Quiz01

It goes with this excerpt from three WP articles. I like that the questions are in the original order because on the first reading, the student can use the quiz as a guide. The testbank will be randomized by question order, as we discussed.

There is a minor bug that I urge you to not waste time with. (Excuse the dangling preposition..) But if the quiz has two blank lines, something can go wrong with a true-false test. I say we just demand that wikiquizzes separate by only one line. Even wikimedia can mishandle too much space between questions, and the extra whitespace line (or absence of a whitespace) is no trouble to spot visually as people write/edit quizzes. We will never make quizzes with too many questions, but instead keep the quizzes modular, with only 20 or 25 questions. Exams of 100 or more questions are formed by a collection of modular quizzes, but it's not to difficult to spline them together without violating whitespace rules.

If I ever have to code this in Matlab, I will demand that all lines begin with one of the following symbols:    {    |     +     -

Then at the last minute we add that extra whitespace that wikimedia demands.


 * The input that confused the answer sorter can be seen by going into this page's edit mode, where the spaces are preserved:

{In Kepler's era, physics (how and why things moved) was usually considered a part of natural philosophy + true - false
 * type="" }

{Kepler incorporated religious arguments and reasoning into his work + true - false
 * type="" }

The permalink to the old version of the test is: https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Astronomy_college_course/Kepler/Quiz01&action=edit&oldid=1201792 (If you open that file be careful not to save or you will revert)--guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 13:04, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

The question begins:

FYI: Java parser issues
User:Guy vandegrift/Wikiquiz testbank Java parser bugs --guyvan52 (discuss • contribs) 16:59, 18 July 2014 (UTC)