User talk:DustinEirdosh

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Analogies for Sustainable Development
Hi Dave - I am new to Wikiversity (with very minimal experience on Wikipedia). We are looking to launch a long-term Learning Project here titled "Analogies for Sustainable Development" - a collection of pages that explore science-based analogies relevant to Education for Sustainable Development. I am having trouble because it does not fit cleanly into a single School or Department... I have explored the Learning Projects guide, what else can I do?--DustinEirdosh (discuss • contribs) 14:35, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I added a link for Analogies for Sustainable Development under Sustainable development. You can start creating the resource directly. As for category, I would add Category:Sustainability. That will add it to the appropriate lists. The overall idea of schools and departments were never as successful as the original Wikiversity participants envisioned. It's better to just focus on creating good resources. Let me know whatever questions you have. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 15:33, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much! we have now built up some basic structure on the page. The idea is that collaborators can contribute their own analogies as sub-pages based on a very loose template. And also that others can Rank and Characterize each analogy based on a set of criteria we have developed.... Would you have ideas about (A) how best guide the development of analogy articles based on a minimal template, and (B) how to create a special box that can be put into every analogy article that displays information about the ranked quality and characteristics of that specific analogy entry? DustinEirdosh (discuss • contribs) 12:46, 9 September 2016 (UTC)


 * It depends on whether you have some type of control over participants. Those of us who teach real-world classes using Wikiversity have ways to guide development off-wiki that has led to a number of successful projects. Managing wiki users otherwise often is similar to herding cats. :-) To add a box to each page, I would recommend a template that could be included, with a parameter or parameters that specify quality and/or characteristics. I'd recommend creating what you think you want as an example somewhere like Analogies for Sustainable Development/Quality. Let me know when you have the example, and I can work with you on turning it into a template. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 21:09, 9 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Great! So this is part of an upcoming teacher-training course here at University of Leipzig, so we plan to use that course to drive engagement and quality. I created the beginning stages of a template box here: . Does that make sense?DustinEirdosh (discuss • contribs) 12:23, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

See the how to contribute page. Editing the example should be self-evident. To edit the template itself, go to Template:Analogy Ranking and Review. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 13:25, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Great, I think I can work with that, thankk. DustinEirdosh (discuss • contribs) 13:30, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I just tested an align="right" at the top of the template. You might prefer that, or not. I'll leave it alone now. Enjoy! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 13:33, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

We are a little worried about the formatting and organization of making sub-pages for each analogy entry... we are thinking instead it might make more sense to create each analogy entry as an individual learning resource on wikiversity, and our Analogies for Sustainable Development Learning Project would coordinate and develop those separate learning resources. Do you see a problem in doing so, or is there any way to improve the heading format of sub-pages? Thanks!DustinEirdosh (discuss • contribs) 10:05, 12 September 2016 (UTC)


 * There are several reasons why we use subpages for learning projects at Wikiversity. One is uniqueness. For example, one of the analogies proposed is Cancer. Cancer as a term applies to many different learning projects, so each project that wants a Cancer page needs to use a subpage for that resource. We also find that courses / learning projects are much more effective at drawing user interest than individual resource pages. What I see so far is a single learning project, rather than 50 separate projects. What are your concerns regarding heading format or other navigational issues? Perhaps we can address those concerns. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 12:28, 12 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I see,that makes sense. (1) we could make any potentially non-unique name unique, e.g. instead of "Cancer" it could be "Cancer as analogy"...but I also see what you are saying. Our biggest concern is mostly formatting, such that the heading is awkward with the full title as e.g. Analogies for Sustainable Development/Cancer as analogy. We kind of want the sub-page header to clearly stand out so it feels more like an "entry" than a long sub-page directory listing. Is that possible? DustinEirdosh (discuss • contribs) 13:22, 12 September 2016 (UTC)


 * There is a way to do this with DisplayTitle (mw:Help:Magic words). Let me play with it tomorrow and see what I can come up with. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 02:37, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

You can add the following to the top of a page that you want to hide the base page name and only show the subpage name:

Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 13:23, 13 September 2016 (UTC)