User talk:Erkan Yilmaz/Archive3

Hi Erkan
Thanks for the welcome, just finding my feet Jim Cuthbert is my name I noted that in the box below it had Sign your name and thought this was appropriate, If it is not shall I remove it ?
 * Well, we can not be sure if it is your real life name, but if you contribute with that user account people can see that you edited the page - you can take also other names if you like as login. Another advantage is also: at the moment there is an IP and user name, so it would be merged and takes less space in the database.
 * As I see you create new pages and add to them the according Wikipedia articles. Do you want to contribute also more ? Perhaps you would be so kind to tell more about what you plan ? Then we can also help you. Thx so far for your help, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 19:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok Erkan account created no plan as of yet!
 * ok, have fun around here. If you like, you can tell more about yourself on your user page. If you need something, just ask. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 19:39, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Redoing the meeting
Hi Erkan,

Shall we meet tomorrow evening, or monday?--Daanschr 20:16, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Tomorrow can be done I guess. See you then, Erkan Yilmaz Wikiversity:Chat  20:18, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Probabyl we will start meeting at 15:00 UTC+1, Erkan Yilmaz Wikiversity:Chat  12:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

hi erkan
thanks for greetings & email test (it works!). have checked out your stuff (i like the way u work) and how just trying to sort out a feed. i look forward to collaboration. Jtneill 10:08, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Great I could be of help. what you wanna know about feed ? Perhaps I might help ? Collaboration - anytime. Do you know how to access the chat room ? I and others are there - I promise that will be a good source for you. Just use it. Try, if this link works for you. If not, go here please: Chat, Erkan Yilmaz Wikiversity:Chat  10:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi Erkan,

I wanted to do something at work, so i liked to have the opportunity to be part of the reading group. The main reason for me to return to Wikiversity was because i wanted to do something with my time. I do have some ideas to develop Wikiversity, but they are very dependent of a similarity in wishes between me and other participants on Wikiversity. I know from my experience at Citizendium that there are many people with the same ideas as mine, regarding Wikipedia, so there could be a time when my ideas can become reality. What i want is a place on the internet where millions of people are discussing knowledge on an intellectual level. It doesn't necessary have to do with book reading, but books at least have a minimum level of intellectualism. With you i was able to be part of such a level, but we are only the two of us.--Daanschr 13:27, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we can reach what you have in mind (perhaps just needs some time). Anyways: thanks again for your participation. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 13:40, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:
Where are the page protection templates, I'm having trouble in finding them. Terra Welcome to my talkpage 20:34, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You could find some here: Category:Protect template (more info about these here: Page protection templates), also you could get some info here about: Page protection, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 20:40, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I've used one of the page protection templates on the February archive page.:) Terra Welcome to my talkpage 20:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, certainly helps being comfortable when using these then. If you have more questions, just ask. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 20:48, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I've changed Section 56 slightly is there a chance if you could check it, I've also removed some unnecessary tasks and words. Terra Welcome to my talkpage 18:09, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Terra, thanks for your fast feedback. Hope it doesn't bother if I have a look in some time, probably not today. Play more with the tools, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 18:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Finishing Book II
Erkan,

Shall we read from aphorism 76 to 103? 103 ends book II.Daanschr 07:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, also updated the page. Let's talk tomorrow about FR or SA as meeting ok ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:39, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay--Daanschr 17:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Saturday is good.--Daanschr 08:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 08:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Small mysteries (Re: Linear correlation/Introductory quiz)
Hi Erkan, Thanks for the help with WP links for the linear correlation quiz - I like it. Can you help me solve a small mystery? I added a formula for q8, but as a result it seems not to be showing the first answer option: Linear_correlation/Introductory_quiz. -- Jtneill - Talk 00:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thankyou! (That could have taken me a long time...). -- Jtneill - Talk 00:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Chinese book
Hi Erkan,

I will start a new job next week, in which i have to work harder than i have ever done. So, for the moment i will not join your new group, allthough i am interested in it. I have to get used to my new work.--Daanschr 07:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Good morning Daan, good news with your new job. That is more important definitely. Hope everything goes well, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 07:56, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Your course
I'm glad you're putting something together, Erkan, but I'm quite busy with grad school until summer comes around. I'm afraid I don't have serious time to be putting into Wikiversity right now. The Jade Knight 06:59, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Also: Your posting an account of your course is starting to feel a little like spam.  Perhaps you should consider toning it down a little?  The Jade Knight 09:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello Jade, thanks for the fast feedback. Well I just posted it where I believed it would help others who might be interested. Since so far that were the only places I considered, no other entries will be made. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 10:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

RSS Reader testing
FYI, see http://www.sandboxserver.org/wiki/index.php?title=Testing_Mediawiki_extensions#RSS_Reader. -- Jtneill - Talk 14:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Woo-hoo, we're in business! :) See testing page: RSS Reader. What next? Let's see what's possible. -- Jtneill - Talk 14:56, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I read your comments here - why don't you write a note in the Colloquium ? Then more people see this and the chances for (faster) feedback increase. (Don't forget to make a sacrifice to Darklama, who installed it :-) ), Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 15:17, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

busy
"How are things in real life ?" <-- I am busy, but fine....wishing I had some time for the wiki world. --JWSchmidt 00:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

"Are you trying to convert the class already to true Wikiversitans ?" <-- I'm not sure I'd ever feel comfortable trying to drag people paying a high price for a professional education into an environment as experimental as Wikiversity. Also, its hard for me to generate much enthusiasm for putting highly technical and specialized information into Wikiversity....although sometimes when I have a chance I have started a page or two on advanced biology topics. It seems more important to give preference to coverage of topics that have a broader appeal and a higher chance of nucleating a group of collaborators. --JWSchmidt 03:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if someone doesn't start, it never will happen :-)
 * broader appeal: well, let's catch the mice with cheese then. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 09:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hey there.

Just wanted to say thanks for that prompt response. My account is up & going now. I hope to make more constant contribution now that i have sorted a few elements in my life. Keep up the good work

Possible mentor?
Hi Erkan,

As I'm submitting a GSoC application for the WV Technical needs stuff, I'm looking for possible mentors, and it would be nice to have one from within the WV community. I don't know your work commitments and so on, so I don't know if this is something you could possibly take on. Feel free to let me know what you think. Thanks Historybuff 07:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My first thought was: we don't even get going a WCR :-( Let me think more. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, WCR has been something that's come to the front burner a few times, but it hasn't ever reached critical enough mass to keep going on it's own, yet. I'm a persistant person though, and I'm not going away any time soon, so no worries there. The technical bits are all there for WCR, it's the human interfacing that I've lacked the time to concentrate on recently, but my hope is to simplify the tech process to the point where I'm not needed to run an individual session, but I'm just needed to feed and care for the overall process. I envisioned this process migrating to the Sandbox Server eventually, and I think I'll have to more aggressively persue that; for now, I've got a commitment of accessible server space, which will turn bandwidth into WCR master sessions.

All of that said, WCR is a spare time pursuit, and I would give the WV tech stuff my full attention if the GSoC application was successful. My concern now is that we could have a few things done, but since Mentors from the WMF are scarce, even a good WV focused application won't have a chance. I appreciate you being straightforward though. If you might not want to, could you suggest someone else who might be appropriate? And feel free to comment more, of course. Historybuff 10:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * see email, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Erkan, To reply to your talk page comment to me, yes, I think I responded to your e-mail. It'll be interesting to see if WV gets any nods from WMF. Thanks again, Historybuff 20:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I didn't get an email or it landed in my spam filter ? :-( Woudl you mind sending again, if you have a send-queue ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 20:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:
I've responded to your comment on my talkpage. Terra 11:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Course Renaming Request:
Hi Erkan.

I need your help to rename a page in School of Electrical Engineering. The old course name is under the following link Psychometric test and Aptitude Tests under Orientation Box. I need this link to be in EE-PRE Electrical Engineering Orientation which is a Level 0 course or an entrance course.I dont want to create multiple copies of the same content.I think this is necessary and will help this course to mature if it is catagorized as an actual course, which it is. Please let me know once the above is done so i can start working on it, i've been working on a few ideas for this course. I hope I made sense.

Thanks in advance. - Thuvack 14:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello Thuvack, while checking the links to this page: Psychometric test and Aptitude Tests: Preparing to be an Engineer I found that there are some pages linking to it:
 * Psychometric_test_and_Aptitude_Tests:_Preparing_to_be_an_Engineer. Also I noticed that these pages which link to there are created by the user User:Thuvhack.
 * 1. I guess that user is also an account from you ? That is why you asked before about your user login or ?
 * 2. Do you want to change the pages also ? seems to me they are mostly unfinished. Any ideas to continue some time ?
 * 3. btw: you can also move pages after 4 days have passed after registering your account Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 17:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Erkan.Yes there are about 6 unfinished pages, that im just about ready to finish :-).I was using that user name thats why i needed a new log-in so i guess you could delete that user name as well.Yes, I've done a few rough drafts and Im learning how that quiz template work that can feed back on learner answers.Don't understand your point 3 though :-(. Thanks for your help.-Thuvack 05:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course, take your time. User accounts can not be deleted, since every edit needs a contributor. But since no other user than you uses that account, it also could just exist like it is ? About moving: see also: Help:Moving, renaming and removing pages. About 4 days after you have registered your actual user account here at Wikiversity (which was 13:15, 31 March 2008) you will see a new button called "move" on top of every page. With that you can rename/move pages also alone. If still unclear I could give more info (picture?). Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 06:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanx, now i get that. I've just done re-editing links to the above.I'll edit links as i add content to pages. Thanks for you promt response.- Thuvack 09:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

rename
Good Afternoon Erkan,

We would like to retain the topic title "designing constructivist learning experiences" which you changed to "environment." There is a difference between the two terms. I wanted you to know that we were going to attempt to change the term back to the original. I failed doing this once. Is there a method to do this? Do you have administrative control over this function? We understand the nature of wikis and wikiversity: others can edit and make changes. This change is important to us and would like you to know that it affects the work we are doing.

Thanks for your consideration.

Best Regards, Shaun Hammer
 * Hello Shaun, I assume you are talking about this page: Topic:Designing a Constructivist Learning Environment ?
 * Please feel comfortable to select a name which makes it comfortable for you and others to work here at Wikiversity.
 * (the history to the page name: this was moved in accordance with user Anthonys, see here (and I have an email from him - only first letters shown: a@i.e. ))


 * A page normally can be moved by the move button (on top of every page) - probably this failed, because you did not try it with a Wikiversity user account which is registered since 4 days ?
 * I will move it for you and also inform user Anthonys.
 * I hope this all did not cause any inconvenience to you. In general anything in a wiki can be restored. So, please continue using Wikiversity as your learning space. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 21:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes. This is the page we want to change to. . . experience. Best, Shaun
 * Done, please have a look if everything is as you want: Topic:Designing Constructivist Learning Experiences, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 21:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I just see: above you used the plural and now the singular - I can rename it to any of which you like. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 21:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

School Talk Duplicate detected
Hi Erkan.While doing a face lift for Topic:Electronic_engineering I noticed that it is redirected from School:Electronic engineering which has a talk page School talk:Electronic_engineering.Topic:Electronic_engineering has the following talk page Topic_Talk:Electronic_engineering. I think the two talk pages have to be merged. Please help on this or correct me. Thanx! - Thuvack 11:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, both should be merged. I just have a comment before doing this, see here, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 15:40, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I have thought about it. Do you wanna do it ? You could do e.g. by copy + pasting the one in to the other. In the summary you can tell from where you have the content you added. Later you can add a template from here: Category:Deletion templates. What do you say ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 22:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Erkan, I Copied all comments to Topic_Talk:Electronic_engineering, then I did a Redirect from School talk:Electronic_engineering to Topic_Talk:Electronic_engineering. I hope I did not mess up. Thanks for the tip though.- Thuvack 07:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Say is there a way to clean up Redirected pages. In the Case of the above I think it correct to keep, School Pages and Delete/Redirect from Topic Pages. Afterall these are schools not topics. -Thuvack 08:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the copying Thuvack.
 * Well, the problem with deletion can be: some people have from external pages links to them. And if they get deleted and they visit again then they have a negative experience (they can though find the new page, but it needs effort, which some might not be willing to invest or can).
 * On the other hand: these redirects take space in the database ? Since they are created, they won't be deleted anyway form the database, because you need to restore them in case something was deleted by mistake. So a deletion would cause also "space" in the database.
 * But in general you can help us by improving the structure with pages if you notice something. And also: feel free to use the deletion templates from above, because you here just have one (my personal) opinion. :-( Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:24, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: separation between users in Wikiversity
ping- Thuvack 16:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Request for Page Deletion: School Talk Sub-Pages
Hi Erkan, I have removed sub-pages in the following shool talk pages:
 * School_talk:Electrical_engineering which had: *School_talk:Electrical_engineering/Custodians and *School_talk:Electrical_engineering/General and related Page headers & Footers
 * School_talk:Electronic_engineering which had: *School_talk:Electronic_engineering/Custodians and *School_talk:Electronic_engineering/General and related Page headers & Footers

These pages are now obselete, would you delete them for me? Thanx! -Thuvack 08:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * done, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks you're a star.- Thuvack 16:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Help cant upload images
Hi Erkan. I found the following error message when i was trying to up load an image into wikiversity. Please help, I've got a few images that i prepared and i need to upload them for the questionaire on the course i'm working on. -Thuvack 10:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups Autoconfirmed users, Custodians.
 * Your user account here at Wikiversity was created 13:15, 31 March 2008: I think the time limit is either 4 or 7 days for new users to use certain functions here at WV. Can you please try now, if it works ?
 * If not: another option would be, that you email someone the pictures with the info about e.g. licence (see License tags and Uploading files) + description (see below) and someone uploads this and you confirm with a test edit on the file page later on, that the info is correct. But first try, it might work already.
 * Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, just uploaded one, so im sorted thanks.
 * Hi, just uploaded one, so im sorted thanks.

Please rename me
Hi, I'm requesting for a rename. Thanks! --Edmund the King of the Woods! 11:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello, have a look at Changing_username, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 11:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I've received the message, and now I'm going back there to leave a message in your talk page over there as a prove of my identity. --Edmund the King of the Woods! 15:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * done, have fun and see you around on Wikiversity more often, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 15:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar...
I'm awarding you this Barnstar because I think you deserve it and you've made Wikiversity a much better place than it would be without you. Things that come to mind are your intellectual contributions, custodial tasks, community outreach, and generally acting in Wikiversity's best interest.

--Remi 07:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Either way, good work. : ) --Remi 07:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

regulate the use of the medicine, Pharmacy and dentistry ?
Thank you for your welcoming message.

I have a question, How are you going to regulate the use of the medicine, Pharmacy and dentistry....... etc pages? so that no one except health care professionals will read, edit and use it in learning or practice.

Because some people for example patients may use the pages to "diagnose" themselves and even "prescribe" medication or treatments based on what is written.

Note that not in all countries medications are strictly regulated, for example in some developing countries most medications are practically "over the counter" and any one can go to the pharmacy and get any drug.

Wish you good luck and sucess in all your efforts.--Ashashyou 21:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello Ashashyou, thank you for your good observation.


 * >so that no one except health care professionals will read, edit and use it in learning or practice.
 * every page is readable by anyone at wikiversity and nearly all pages are editable, it is a wiki.


 * You are right, that people might "diagnose" themselves and even "prescribe" ...
 * BUT they should consider the General disclaimer, see also: Medical disclaimer. You could help us by also putting these on pages where you find it is appropriate. Or you can tell the pages here, if you like ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 21:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

my last message went wrong
it is supposed to appear like the ones before it. wish you could read it.--Ashashyou 21:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It is hard for everyone new to wiki. But the wiki syntax is fast learned. You can see here how my edit looks like:
 *  == regulate the use of the medicine, Pharmacy and dentistry ? == 
 * the == make the header
 *  :Hello Ashashyou, thank you for your good observation. 
 * here the double point indents
 * More tips about editing you can find at: Help:Contents.


 * Just be bold - nothing can go wrong, everything is fixable here in wiki world, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 22:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Timber washer in the shape of a star...
Perhaps someone should mention that the illustration that you use for barn stars is not a barn star. The image that you use is a timber washer which is shaped like a star.
 * A Barn Star is an decorative piece of artwork in the front of some barns which is a large star. It is probably three feet wide or larger.  There is only one per barn max normally.
 * The Timber Washer (as shown here) along with a bolt and nut is used to hold two pieces of wood together. This washer is about four to six inches wide. There will be about a dozen or more in a single building.
 * Robert Elliott 03:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello Robert, thanks for your input, have learned again something. I took the image from Barnstar where it was described as: "The Original Barnstar"
 * Perhaps we could also add comment there to avoid future issues ? Will have a look later in the evening, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 06:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Underconstruction template
ping- Thuvack 15:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * As I see McCormack fixed it already. How about this: in the future you could write to a more wider audience (e.g. Colloquium) - more people read there, than on user's talk pages and this could result in faster answers. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 21:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Tanx! will do.-Thuvack 13:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Help me add a GFDL license
ping -Thuvack 13:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

education and collaboration
yep thanks for the additions on education and collaboration. cheers j