User talk:Ian Kennedy

Thanks for the article on Plagiarism. Wikiversity is devoted to free culture and a process by which copyrights are respected and authorship is attributed but information is licensed so as to be freely copied and widely used. "Plagiarism is the illegal practice of taking someone else's ideas, data, findings, the language, illustrative material, images, or writing, and presenting them as if they were your own." <-- It is interesting that part of how Wikiversity is being created is by the legal practice of taking someone else's ideas, data, findings, the language, illustrative material, images, or writing, and presenting them in new ways of your own design. (Kennedy's emphasis) At Wikipedia this definition is offered, "Plagiarism is the practice of dishonestly claiming original authorship of material which one has not actually created". In my view, within Wikiversity we need to discuss both legal and illegal ways of using the work of others and do so within the context of a project that is devoted to a wiki culture in which building upon the work of others is encouraged. --JWSchmidt 12:07, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia and Kennedy's definitions
What Kennedy's short definition does not set out to do is to expand and state the legal way of presenting material without plagiarising. (We are not talking here about copyright infringement.) To avoid plagiarism, all that is necessary is to cite the source and then reference it in the references section. (It may still infringe copyright, because it is e.g. too extensive a quote.) The way Kennedy came up with his original definition of plagiarism was to trawl the Web for all existing definitions and then selectively use one or two words from each. This resulted in an original definition without any need to cite the sources! There are only two ways Wikipedia and Wikiversity can progress: Either cite the source (and thereby avoid plagiarism) or add value by bringing many accumulated fragments of text together, passing it through your mind to add value to it (and thereby avoid both plagiarism and copyright issues)! As Kennedy was the first person to find and use those fragments of text about plagiarism and add value to them, his definition should always be referenced correctly --even in diagrams--. He does not fully agree with Schmidt's diagram as it confuses plagiarism with copyright infringement. It is all too easy to plagiarise: just cut and paste (copyright or non-copyright) material without citation and reference.

What is needed is for the word "plagiarism" to be removed from the diagram, and for the diagram to be introduced to the (new, needed) article on copyright. Interestingly enough, there is then no need to cite where the words at the top of the diagram have come from, as it is then "an accumulation of fragments" ("Original material" + words from Kennedy's definition of plagiarism)! What Schmidt has done is to "add value". If Kennedy now wishes to use Schmidt's definition of "original material", he has to cite and reference Schmidt, even though most of the words were written by him! The key point here is that Schmidt has introduced a new idea in defining the concept of "original material".

--Ian Kennedy 11:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Paper
Ok, I've just been trying to categories things in like categories. Take a look at the other two in cat:papers. Did you want other people to help edit?--Rayc 16:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations..
..on your paper's acceptance! :-) Cormaggio beep 11:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Landscape icon.jpg
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