User talk:Jacob J. Walker/Education for Americans about the Culture of Arab Israelis Project/Grant Proposal

Interesting project! Perhaps this project could link up with one or other of the Filmmaking courses, and also the Fundraising department (where grants is a major interest). I want to discuss many more aspects of this documentary - like about how it's to be researched, who is it going to talk to, etc., and I wonder if this can be a truly collaborative process from beginning to end. There has been thinking about making a "Wikimentary" in the past, and I know several people who are still interested (myself included). There could, for example, be a part of this proposal for making Arab-inspired music for the soundtrack, and this could even involve people (Americans) from non-Arab backgrounds, to corroborate the overall mission of the documentary. I would also like to explore working with Wikimedians living in the Middle East, or who have an interest in this area - it could reach out across several projects and cultures.. Cormaggio talk 08:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the feedback. I must admit that I first put this project up here because I needed to write a report for a grant writing class, and I like the WikiMedia style of referencing sources.  I also thought it would be nice to have it open, but I hadn't given much thought of how to have it collaborative.  I plan on finishing a draft this week that I can use for my class, and then after that, it would be interesting to see about getting collaboration, and making the documentary a reality, especially if it can be a collaborative effort.  I may also create a Wiki about grant writing from what I learned in this course, which could be used to help Wikiversity.  --Jacob Walker 04:28, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I see, so this was more an exercise in grant-writing than a serious grant proposal? :-) But I also agree that it would be fascinating to see it through to reality. Cormaggio talk 21:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, it was originally a serious project, as I was hoping to visit my sister this summer who lives in Israel, and take a travel study course through CSUS. (But those plans fell through) The grant writing portion came to be after I started taking a Grant Writing course (before my travel plans fell through). At this point I am leery of actually submitting the grant, because when someone else funds a project, there are always expectations that the funder has and "strings attached".  While the topic of this project should not be controversial, it is hard to bring up anything about Arabs and Israel and not have emotional reactions from people, and strong biases. After finishing the assignment for my Grant writing class that is due this weekend, I plan on taking much of the content from the Grant proposal, as well as content that I started to work on from my original travel-study class preparation and place them online here.  If there is significant interest at that point, then I very well may continue to collaborate on the project and make it a reality.  --Jacob Walker 01:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * On making a wiki about grant writing - is this for your own personal/professional/academic reasons, or could it not be developed completely on Wikiversity? Cormaggio talk 21:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * If I work on a page specifically about Grant Writing, it would be developed on Wikiversity, and would be for the benefit of Wikiversity. I would also check to see what has already been created here, and jump in where appropriate.  --Jacob Walker 01:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Jacob, Have you seen the Research grant collaboration group? I think that I shall break the grant proposal aspects out to a subpage and list it at RGCG, if that's OK. Maybe this would be better structured as a general main resource: Culture of Arab Israelis and then the education for Americans perspective as a related study? Maybe we could issue a WV:RfC for a broader "Middle East Studies" program or something. All of this is quite needed, in my opinion. Thoughts? -- CQ 23:28, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Those are a lot of good ideas. I would appreciate not having much changed until after this weekend, when my assignment is due.  After that point, we can explore how to best use this material in Wikiversity, and how it can fit in to a broader context. --Jacob Walker 01:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)