User talk:Jim-Siduri

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You do not need to be an educator to edit. You only need to be bold to contribute and to experiment with the sandbox or your userpage. See you around Wikiversity! --Abd (discuss • contribs) 10:54, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Somebody has a request for somebody
Please don't make many edits to User talk:Abd. Each one generates an email notification, and each one generates another line in Recent Changes and another line in a Watchlist display or an email notification, for those who watch my Talk page, which is many. Somebody is creating a page for the conversation, User talk:Abd/Somebody. Somebody will move the existing conversation from User talk:Abd to the new page. Somebody should use User talk:Abd for working on Wikiversity or initiating conversations. Somebody thanks somebody, and adds a signature, because that's what somebody does. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 16:45, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

User:Jim-Siduri/WikiPolitics
Jim, your page in mainspace appears to be a political project, though I understand you may also frame it differently.

The page says, "ANYONE in our world can edit ANYTHING here." That's not so about any Wikiversity resource, nor is it so about any WikiMedia Foundation project, in spite of policies that imply otherwise. It isn't even that page in your user space, because not anyone can edit Wikiversity, lots of IP is blocked, for example. If you want to allow random IP to edit that page, I'll support that, but there are also Recent Changes Patrollers who will take down stuff they see, perhaps. You can always revert it back in. You'll have a better chance of being able to stand for this in your own user space, so I moved the page there, which also avoids other nasty questions about neutrality, etc.

If you want that "anyone" to be more complete, you'll probably have to start your own wiki. It's easy enough, the technical side of it. We might even have a resource on it, if we don't, hey, what a great idea, if I say so myself.

But you will find that "anyone can edit" doesn't work. The owner found that pretty quickly with OffWiki. You know he blocked me, right? After saying he would leave the issue of his ban request up to the community, and when the community wasn't going his way and didn't want to ban me, he essentially did so privately, removed Recent Changes so people couldn't see what he was doing, and revision-deleted the blocks so you had to know where to look to see them.

That was an extreme case of buyer's remorse. But lots of wikis have tried "anyone can edit," and I've been an administrator on some. Mess. Really, it doesn't work.

There is an idea behind it that can work, and it is very possible to stand for freedom, but, as well, we need to understand the survival mind. If you fight it, try to define it as bad, it will fight you, literally to the death. Don't! It's not bad, it's actually necessary, but as a foundation, a platform that then makes something else possible.

I also reverted you on User:Abd/Somebody, partially to make a point. It's all there in history and much or most may come back, with more. Just not right now. Jim, you have some possibilities. I see them. If you want to realize them, you will need some discipline. I don't mean me disciplining you, that's not my job. I mean you organizing your own activity to be effective. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 21:02, 28 August 2014 (UTC)