User talk:Jon Awbrey~enwikiversity

Jon Awbrey

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Academic Freedom
JA: Thanks, Moulton, I'm so glad to see that Academic Freedom is alive and well somewhere in Wiki&mdash; Oops! &hellip; Nevermind &hellip; JonAwbrey 20:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Further info at meta:Talk:Spam blacklist#Jon Awbrey and JonAwbrey, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 20:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hoo Boy, look's like it's that same old song and dance. Bummer times.  —Moulton 20:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

JA: Thanks, Moulton, I see that someone sent me a copy of some IRC chatter about this issue, but I cannot participate in any discussions that are not fully Transparent And Open (TAO) for all the world to see. But do let me know how things turn out, as I have a certain interest in the matter. JonAwbrey 01:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't think Mike.lifeguard will be back to mess around with our learning resources again. But I did invite him back for a more functional role.  —Moulton 02:29, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I do expect User:Mike.lifeguard and others to continue to mess around with our learning resources. There is no end to the struggle for free speech and free thought. --JWSchmidt 03:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It is not difficult to anticipate what I will do in that case. —Moulton 03:38, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Write another song? WAS 4.250 05:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Be afraid. Be very afraid.  —Gastrin Bombesin 12:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Think positive John and agf, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 17:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

JA: As you know, Moulton, my experience with the English Wikipedia since late 2005 has left me with x-treme skepticism about the viability of any WMF projects. Mr. Lifeguard took it on himself to delete my self-introductory vita and sometimes my entire user page on about 25 of the 27 WMF sites where I am currently registered, and I had to waste half the night and half the morning replacing them. As you know, too, time gets more precious the more of it passes under the bridge, or before the mast, for that matter. So I'm not going to risk the waste of any more time here, not for the time being, at any rate, but will continue documenting my Adventures In Wikipanned on the several threads that I already needled at The Wikiedia Review, especially in the Meta-Discussion Forum, as there is such a hubbub of "Duh, Bub" currently consuming the ergs and secs of the main bored. Cheers, JonAwbrey 14:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Roger that, Jon. I'll keep an eye on the Alien Outpost for you.  —Barsoom Tork 16:35, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

JA: Mike Lifeguard is now pursuing a systematic campaign of character assassination and vandalism of my work across International Wikis. I will maintain periodic updates on the thread entitled "How Independent Are The Many Tongues Of Wikipædia?" at ''[http://wikipediareview.com/index.php? The Wikipedia Review]''. JonAwbrey 15:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I regret that my earlier prediction, above, was based on an erroneous mental model of Mike.lifeguard. It appears he did return after all, with even more ominous threats from his stronghold at Meta-Wiki. See my remarks on his local talk page here.  —Moulton 14:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

John Vandenberg's Questions

 * John, I am responding to your last query about WikiSource here, as I keep getting that "unresponsive script" warning and eventual browser freeze-up everywhere I go on Meta. This all started 2 or 3 weeks ago when I was updating an article from a couple of years ago with new graphics.  The article is all but scratched off the English Wikipedia now, but a couple of people did a nice translation of it on the Portuguese Wikipedia, so I went there to offer them the new graphics, and maybe whatever type of collaboration it would take to translate the labels internal to the figures.  When I tried to register there, the matriculator would not take the "Jon Awbrey" name so I tried the camel case variant, since I have been on several wikis that will only accept that.  I tried uploading the images in the usual way, but got sent off to Commons, and then I ran out of time for that.  But now every time I log in under "JonAwbrey" anywhere, the Unified Logger creates an account on every WMF site that I happen to visit.  Sometimes I have an old "Jon Awbrey" account, sometimes not.  Well, I recognize the danger of impersonation lurking in all that, so I always create a "Jon Awbrey" account if I don't already have one and redirect the camel case variant to that.  Okay?  The other day I clicked on the preferences tab and it told me that I had 2 more accounts than I thought I had, so I looked down the list and it said I had old WikiNews and WikiSource accounts &mdash; how it made the link between the two variants I do not know &mdash; but I went ahead and did the same initialization routine as usual.  Now, I didn't put my web vita on either of those, as I had pretty much forgotten what they were for, but only my name, just to un-red the red links, and so that the redirects would have a real target.  Okay?  I hope that does not present some kind of problem for this "wiki that anyone who doesn't mind being being hassled by passport checkers and cavity searchers for a bluddy couple of weeks can edit".  JonAwbrey 04:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Jon, I was just hoping that you were interested in contributing to Wikisource. If there is any PD texts that you wish to bring online, or bring from another site to Wikisource so that they can be better presented and analysed, let me know.  p.s. I am new here at Wikiversity as well.  There are a lot of really interesting projects here.  It is fun to be a newbie again. John Vandenberg (chat) 07:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see that now. It was very late and the neurons along my optic pathway must have transposed signatures so that I initially thought your message was from Mr. Lifeguard.  The time and e-sprit that I had for cross-wiki contribution is somewhat depleted now, but I will no doubt try again at some time in the future.  Many Reguards, JonAwbrey 13:36, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Questions
JA: What is the interwiki code prefix for the English Wikiversity? That is, the prefix that corresponds to the "m" for "Meta" in "m:user:Jon Awbrey"? JonAwbrey 19:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * it is v: Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 19:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

JA: Many Thanks, JonAwbrey 21:10, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Curiosities?
This? Was there consensus surrounding this removal of content from your userpage? Does "consensus" on Meta de facto override consensus here at Wikiversity? Was there any attempt to establish consensus on Wikiversity? As long as it is not an issue of putting an excessive strain on Wikimedia servers... Emesee 02:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

To Whom It May Concern
JA: I won't be wasting any more of my time here at Cabalversity. Just as it is at all the other Wikipedia Gulags, the few good folks that I encountered here are impotent to do anything about protecting Academic Freedom, Critical Thinking, and Open Discussion under the current Regime. Those who wish to continue with honest dialogue may do so at The Wikipedia Review. And those who wish to contribute learning resources to society may do so at Knol and MyWikiBiz, where their contributions and their persons will be respected. JonAwbrey 15:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * While Jimbo's timing was unfortunate, there were legitimate concerns. However, that does not mean that Moulton will be unable to prove himself int he future, which would show, beyond all doubt, that Wikiversity is about having a strong community without some of the problems that other communities are constantly plagued with. I hope that you change your mind and stick around. Moulton will be in a Peer Review process in a few days, and your input would be helpful. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Community Review
Thanks for catching the typo I missed. If you have suggestions to make following the discussion more coherent I am open to suggestions. With all that is going on keeping track of discussions was getting hard to follow, and impossible for some with the page being about 150KB in size. I think this shows how dysfunctional, fragile, and unmanageable mediawiki's discussion system can be. -- dark lama  03:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, it's not really that big a deal. It's just late, my eyes are blurry, and our basketball team got taken out in the first round of the Big Dance.  Jon Awbrey 03:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Jon Awbrey. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Jon Awbrey~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:35, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:12, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Semeiotic
Hi! I noticed your recent contribution on Semeiotic. This subject seems to be specific to the Relation composition learning project. I moved it to Relation composition/Semeiotic. Feel free to move it back if that's not appropriate. We've been trying to add a bit more structure to Wikiversity lately, with many learning projects organized more like Wikibooks with subpages than Wikipedia with no subpages. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 16:06, 29 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Dave. No, that would not fit well there.  It will eventually  belong to another resource collection that I'm calling Logic Live on account of the fact that I plan to add proof animations in a graphical syntax.  But it will be a while in the dev, so I can reorganize as time goes by.  I used the title Semeiotic as that is distinctive of C.S. Peirce's approach and avoids hash conflicts with other people's ways of doing things. Cheers, 16:40, 29 October 2015 (UTC)