User talk:Jonathanus

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Latin
Hi Jonathanus! I noticed your moving and subsequent requesting deletions of Latin and similar pages. Can you tell me what you're actually trying to accomplish? It might be easier if I understand the final destination first before I delete something we might need to restore. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 02:24, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I simply tried to rename a page (Topic:Latin) which turned into long chain of redirections. I got it fixed and because the redirect pages that I had created are now useless, I thought it would be best to delete them. Jonathanus (discuss • contribs) 02:37, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, it's not that simple. While you may have the content where you want it now, you've lost all the edit history that goes with it.  The edit history must be maintained in order to comply with CC-BY-SA licensing.  If it was just your content, it wouldn't be an issue, but there were other editors involved, and you took their content and effectively claimed it as your own.  I have to restore that history.  So, again, I must ask, what is it you were trying to accomplish?  What pages were the starting points, and where did you ultimately want them?  -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 04:12, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, I think I've followed the trail of what happened correctly. The redirect pages that had only your history have been deleted.  The blanked pages that had other history have been merged, and your blanking was removed.  The page you moved to Topic:Latin is not a topic page.  Topic pages are for discussion of how content will be organized.  They are not for content itself.  For example, Latin stream should be a topic page.  It has no Latin content, only information about the courses and interested users.  The Latin course is now back at Latin.


 * In the future, please request custodian assistance for complicated page moves. It took me almost two hours this evening to reverse engineer what happened and make the necessary corrections.  Thanks!  -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 05:28, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help. Sorry for the trouble. Jonathanus (discuss • contribs) 12:16, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Latin Resource Organization
As you start working through the various Latin resources, give some thought as to how they should be arranged, organized, etc. We've started a new initiative over the last six months or so to organize everything by learning project rather than simply individual lessons. So, for example, we might have separate courses for Latin 1 and Latin 2, equivalent to two different semesters of high school or college Latin, but we wouldn't have separate courses (main pages) for Latin Verbs and Latin Nouns. But Verbs and Nouns would clearly be appropriate subpages under / within one or more of the Latin learning projects.

I bring this up because the Latin stream main page would be an appropriate Topic page, but the subpages below (Special:PrefixIndex/Latin_stream/) are content pages that should be moved under Latin, or perhaps a Latin 1 or Latin 2 if that's the direction your project takes you.

If you want to see how this works in practice, take a look at Introduction to Swedish as an example where all of the lesson pages are subpages under the main page. There are alternate approaches to the navigation if you don't care for a top horizontal navigation bar. I personally prefer a vertical sidebar for navigation, such as on Lua, another course that has all of the lesson pages as subpages.

Let me know if you have questions or need assistance with anything.

Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 16:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice! Jonathanus (discuss • contribs) 17:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Latin/first declension
What is the other page that serves the same purpose as Latin/first declension? Latin still links to Latin/first declension, and we need to correct the link before deleting this one. I also need to see how similar they are, and if the histories should be merged. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 20:47, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Never mind. I think I found it at Latin/First Declension.  Let me know if that wasn't the right one.  There are others.  Search:First declension  -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 21:15, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * That was the correct one. Jonathanus (discuss • contribs) 21:37, 2 March 2014 (UTC)