User talk:Mirwin/Archive

Welcome
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== [Michael R. Irwin] put links to other sites along top edge of virtual desktop here


 * /Task Directives and Responses and Results and Status
 * /todo


 * /collegues
 * /trick and tips
 * /Study Notes
 * /links to background reading
 * /sand box
 * /other sites

If you made it here might as well leave some chit chat or an idle message or question.

Hello, Game comment and link
I saw []User_talk:Mirwin#Note_to_self|this]] the other day, not sure if you caught my note there.

I did a quick review of your game, and am intrigued by the concept. I have some ideas on how it might work as a project, and I am willing to contribute in some way to moving it forward. Let me know if you are on IRC ever to exchange ideas. Historybuff 06:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Test message
This is only a test.

page fix
I think I fixed that page. You can always click on the "history" tab and revert to a previous version of the page. Click on the date of the earlier version. When that version is shown, click "edit" then save. The current welcome templates are listed at Welcome templates. --JWSchmidt 00:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Jr, apt, grand visions, etc.
(copied here for personal future reference from Ben's talk page)

Mirwin, these days I tend to use aptitude, which is similar to apt-get in many respects but has "smarter" conflict resolution. Also, there are several gui frontends like synaptic, etc. that some people prefer, and which I find convenient from time to time. Check them out. As for installing Jr. the install doc is a bit outdated. I started to update it but got sidetracked. Really, it's nothing more complicated than:

1. Install Debian. 2. Select all junior-* packages you're interested in. 3. Install them.

Thanks for the pointers to the colloquium and OLTP. I'll check them out. Ben Armstrong 13:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I did ask where to answer on irc and got answers about what "many people" do, but not "most people". Thanks for the tip. Ben Armstrong 10:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry Mike, I never went to OSU.

Self Paced Reading
Yes, my school used such a system when I was young....that was back in the 60s. The only problem I had with it was that like most school assignments it forced everyone to read the same limited set of material. Hypertext should be able to provide more options than paper. --JWSchmidt 09:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Mike?
So IS this how I can communicat with you? or should I be back on my page for this conversation?


 * Yes this is great. Sign your post with four tilda's to get a time stamp like this ---> Mirwin 03:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Whats a tilda?
Hey Mike I can see how I talk with you on your page but How do I talk to you on my page?````


 * It is the squiqqle above the tab key. Use cap as the tilda is above the apostrophe. Mirwin 03:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Generally initiate the conversation on my page, then I respond on your page, you respond on my page, etc. Sometimes people have the entire conversation on one page once it is successfully initiated.  Mirwin 03:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Mike Hanson 04:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

So how do I continue the conversation in the same box or do I Jonascox 03:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

OK so I figured that out. Just don't type in a subject and it defaults to the last?

so where did you go?Jonascox 03:23, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I put some messages on your talk page. Mirwin 03:24, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

development of hi-tech systems on wikiversity
Thanks for your note Mirwin. I would be thrilled, and perhaps the best way to express my enthusiasm would be to (finally!) clean up the TeX imports that I've contributed. :-) I would really like it if we could do something really useful with the Electric (software) here at wikiversity, perhaps even to the point of creating MOSIS integrated circuit designs that are usable CMOS MEMS devices.  Thanks for your feedback! JPatrickBedell 17:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Java
I had to learn Java some years ago to make an assignement. Do you know C++ or C? Because, well, it's a lot easier to learn Java then.

If you do know C++, as was my situation, I can suggest you the book "Java in a nutshell", which is more of a reference of the language, organized by topics. With that book, a good IDE (I used NetBeans, but Eclipse is more fashionable - if you're able to configure it, which I can't) and a program to develop, you can learn the language very quickly. --Jorge 01:02, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Reading, recording
Hi Michael, thanks for the link to Self Paced Reading Labs - interesting stuff. I can't think of anyone that's talked about doing something similar - maybe you'd have to trawl through the Colloquium archives? ;-) Also, thanks for the comment on Talk:Getting started with sound recording - having recently invested in a microphone and sound card, this is something that I am personally motivated to develop into a high quality resource. Watch these spaces! But just back to reading again - I'd like to start a culture of reviewing/analysing/summarising books for the benefit of others - should we start Topic:Reading perhaps? Cormaggio beep 11:07, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Mustangs
Hi Mirwin. Thanks for your comments on the Mustangs. I am in the middle of researching the possibilities -(more, the probabilities) concerning the trustworthiness or percentage credibility of my intimate conviction that many more Spanish horses got to first the Texas Plains, then the High Plains long before the commonly accepted date(s) of circa 1720;- i.e. a hunch that needs backing up by hard facts. I am handicapped by my lack of Spanish in this case as it (my hunch) is in need of documentation from the early 16th C. The Royal Marine Archives in Madrid would be the best bet, I suppose, given that SHIPWRECKS in the Gulf of Mexico are central to this pet theory of mine.. I'll keep you posted if this topic is of real interest to you. Regards, John Ruddy Username:Ruddyjohn.

got your IM
I got your Im, just been busy IRL--Rayc 06:33, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Requests
If you get a chance, could you please look over Introduction to Programming/Variables. So far, I am fairly unsatisfied with it. Introduction to Programming is supposed to be for folks completely new to programming. This means that they may not know stuff that experienced programmers take for granted and need to be gradually brought up to speed - but not in a boring way. Thanks! Dmclean 19:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

algebra class
Is the college algebra class active? I wanted to know how to get started in a class.

Thanks --Spawn50 02:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

topic:communication
hi mirwin. i saw lazyquasar edits on Topic:Communication, and since i'm working on a reboot for that page (it's plaind dead and forgotten), i'd like to see what you think of it. the reboot material is at Topic:CommunicationBeta. thanks in advance. capi talk 14:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

huh, i copied your "leave me a message" template. it just seems wonderful and useful. capi talk 14:31, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Private Wikimedia
Hi, I have found your idea of private Wikimedia group. Have you reached this idea?--Juan 19:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: logging in
see here please Erkan Yilmaz (evaluate me!, discussion ) 07:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you working with this IP ? Erkan Yilmaz ( Wikiversity:Chat, wiki blog ) 13:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

spam ellimination
I've been using 'mail2web.com' as a spam screen; it lets me keep the ones I really want. It isn't ideal but it works. Shir-El too 12:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikiversity growth
Hi. You wrote on Clio the Muse's talk page: "Can you share with me why you do not find this site of long term interest and thus will not be sticking around? I have been expecting explosive growth in the site community and I am at a loss why this is not occurring. Any insight you can provide regarding why you do not find Wikiversity of use or interest in the short or long term would be greatly appreciated!"

I have a guess about why there hasn't been explosive growth. It is not clear at all what Wikiversity attempts to be. Its purposes and means are way too vague for a newcomer. Everyone knows what an encyclopedia is (and what books are and what news are), everyone has seen an encyclopedia before. Despite people having minor disputes about it, there is a major common agreement concerning what an encyclopedia is about, so Wikipedia doesn't need to explain what it is to anyone: people assume they know already and start editing. They know what an article should look like when it's done. They know what is its goal and how it helps people, they know how it works and that it does work. Wikiversity is not like that. People just don't know what it's supposed to look like, what they can do to help, and how it is going to help them and other people.

I have made comments about this before on Cormaggio's talk page. I do believe this is keeping Wikiversity from growing and it needs to be addressed. When you say "there's an online encyclopedia whose articles everyone can edit", that's pretty much understood. When you say "there is a learning resource that anyone can edit", people don't have a clear picture of what you're saying. a.z. 02:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Class projects
"mirwin: I think this link  http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Guidelines_for_class_projects#Starting_a_Class_Project belongs somewhere in our wikiversity orientation materials for instructors.  Anyone have any ideas?" <-- the page School and university projects needs work. --JWS 18:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Advertising your classes...
You asked, "Do you feel that exposure as featured content and link on the main page has attracted any traffic that resulted in student participation in your classes?"

Yes and no! It attracts students but it seems to attract the wrong students.

I am looking for students (12 to 16 years olds) who are already making their own motion pictures. Instead, I get people who are curious, try a half dozen lessons of a course and then go onto some other subject. They have no great interest in the subject I teach. Robert Elliott 12:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Reading club
Hi Mirwin,

Do you like to start a reading club with me? I was thinking about a social sciences related topic, but it can be something else as well if you are interested.--Daanschr 11:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Daanschr, sorry to take so long to respond to your invitation. I am not big on Social Sciences but if something were proposed related to social dynamics of small isolated groups I could participate at this time.  Mirwin 23:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * That is a topic, which relates to anthropology or sociology, i guess. Something in which i am not familiar with as well. But, that makes as equals. I will look in the databases of the libraries that i'm a member of, to see if they have something of this topic. I presume that you are referring to Wikiversity and the reading clubs as small isolated groups? In that case, we could read some marketing, networking and communication books as well.--Daanschr 09:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Daanschr, an update, I found an excellent prospect for a book for our reading project.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diamond_Age  I am going to look for proper places to add it into your reading club directory now.  Then I have to figure out how to purchase it.  I am still buoycotting Amazon.com over their silly one push button patent so I will probably stop by a local bookseller next week and order it.  Probably take a few weeks before I can start reading but I think it is important to help local merchants survive.  I live in an economically depressed rural area and we keeping losing our new and used bookstores.  Mirwin 01:06, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I will take a look at the book.
 * Interesting to hear about a backward rural area. I live in a country, which can be seen as one big city. But here the bookstores are also dissapearing. A famous Dutch biologist said that the Kalverstraat in Amsterdam used to have several bookstores in the 1960s. Nowadays these bookstores are all replaced by shops dedicaded to clothing and looks. Small shops are often replaced by major warehouses and the last ones are rapidly following eachother up. The streets in my city, Leiden used to have shops that had lasted for decades, even centuries. And now the average shop hold out for an average two years. I guess it has a lot to do with immigration. Dutch shopkeepers are replaced by many muslim immigrants, but also Greeks. And now we got the Polish invasion of immigrants, who will probably start shops of their own as well. Most homeless people are now Polish in Leiden.
 * Outside Holland their are also initiatives to keep local merchandise. Germany has many regional coins, which replaces the euro for payment, this to introduce a local autarkic economy of small farmers and local shopkeepers.Daanschr 09:54, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The book seems very interesting. I have never heard of it. I would like to know more about the difference between victorian and confucian thinking. I know a lot about victorian thinking, but hardly anything on confucianism.--Daanschr 09:58, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I have the book from the library. Already started to read some pages in the train.--Daanschr 20:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I am reading Thucydides with Erkan Yilmaz. We try to structure our book reading by setting a date for discussing certain literature. Perhaps we could do the same. Since the book is a novel, i think it would be best to read the entire book first and discuss about it later. What do you think?

I have paid for the book and it is antipated by mail a week from this friday .. that would be ... today is tuesday 22Nov07 so plus wednesday,thursday,friday would be 25 and 7 for 32 December 07. Eureka! Holiday no delivery till Jan 2 earliest ... if that is on saturday ... mail will be running on monday so .... I expected arrival on the 4 Jan 2008 plus or minus a couple of days according to aggreement with local bookcycler (she is my supplier of used books as well and buyback profitable or remarketable used books). Same delay as for weekend so expected delivery is still Fourth Jan, 2008. I agree with you lets each enjoy the book in our own way entirely first and then we can discuss our thought regarding the author's efforts and how they impacted our previous understanding with the living universe all around us. So unless I hear back I figure we got an agreed approach in will I should be able to meet my committment to start reading by 4 Jan 2008 and I am usually quick reader when interested. Been long time since I have been in a book reading club ... in fact I think it was literature classes in College about two decades ago so I should have no longer generating motivation to get finished within two weeks. I intend to be done and substantially closed out with this book reading adventure by NLT Feb, 2008. Those are my mile stones that I intend to keep to myself. If you choose to set your some specific metrics I would be happy to hear about them and work together so we both accomplish all of our individual and mutual overlapping intentions to the extent feasible given unavoidable external influences. Thanks! Mirwin 23:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I will set a time schedule for myself within the coming weeks and will contact you about it.--Daanschr 10:30, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

May be time to attempt a private wikimedia desktop again.
Wikimedia Admin install, maintain, etc. manual at Amazon.com for 30 to 40 bucks or use this site for free. www.mediawiki.org and www.wikimedia.org From looks of current market I can probably get half money spent back if experience is similar to last attempt. Better stress relief to actually burn the book page by page while thinking about the push pull glop feul stream I am attempting to improve to my own advantage at home. Currently we buy the packaging then give/throw it away free to Coos Country Dump where it is burned as feul to generate some power hopefully without excessive pollution relieved to air from flue gas or ground from ashes. I would like to burn some of that within the homestead (two flows one toxic ink one ok for ash distribution around the home grounds. Mirwin 02:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Checkout http://www.wikidot.com Mirwin 14:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * placeholder for pending homework queutag xhomework1 http:// 209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:MdU42903udkJ:www.gamasutra.com/features/gdcarchive/2000/baron.doc+online+game+services+heat&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us 68.238.142.251 01:26, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

This is a test of click here to leave message.
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clicking this button helps project

critical step 000.omri.Mirwin 11:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC) == Please define the terms and conditions used in these statements. It is necessary to continue to make any progess. ==

critical step 001.omri.Mirwin 11:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC) == specify a scope (an area of applicabilitiy) for terms used by right clicking and dragging mouse over area where you think the definition applies or is correct. cut and paste into defined terms so those who follow can see your thinking and agree or disagree somehow. Mirwin 11:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

critical step 002.0mri.Mirwin 11:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC) ==Loop back into noise generator and cross refer and wire out of this place. my head hurts thinking about it sometimes. Seriously! Do not drive yourself crazy trying to make this noise generator perfect. We are building mutually evolving patterns of overlapping definitions. Every little bit helps. It takes a lot to initialize. Thanks for your assistance! Mirwin 11:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

critical step 003.0mri.Mirwin 11:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC) Thank yourself for your own efforts. Mirwin 11:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC) Ok omri Mirwin 11:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

--- This section cut and pasted from chunk critical step 002.0mri Mirwin 11:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Why not clean up this mess? simulated newcomer Mirwin 11:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Why not clean up this mess? simulated newcomer Mirwin 11:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * We are trying to show that in every million clicks initiated by human consciousness there is a slight but measurable increase the chance of "bit rot" when compared to the same single bit flipped by a trusty side kick such as I hope mirbot at http://www.advogato.org will become soon so I can cross link his trust metric to mine and automated some stuff around here. Mirwin 11:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I have now confused myself.
While attempting to play with the editor at same time as creating hopefully a source of noise, interested spectatators, button clicking partipants I ended up here instead of at the registration queure for Lunar Boom Town. Sorry for the confusion if you "wasted" a few minutes trying to help sort this mess out. Not too sorry if you are highly pissed you wasted a few hours wandering the link maze here before your system crashed and you got torqued enough to kick your dog. If this or some thing similar happens to you here stop and think a little bit about our task here. We are attempting to build a self repairing system. We manage the error rates so that our systems of systems are hopefully well fed, energised, and available for instructional service totally free of charge to anyone on the planet at most or many times in overlapping ven diagrams (interlocking closed universes cut in half). We know it can be frustrating because it has happend to us occasionally. The solution is usually to take a break and relax and do something useful, pleasing, etc. for someone else occasionally. Mirwin 11:22, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If you reached here by mistake similar to that described above. For example: trying to create or click buttons in the semi automated registration process at Lunar Boom Town, then congratulations! You are registered as soon as you have registered an account with Wikiversity.org and added yourself to the list of particpants of Lunar Boom Town found click here or there >>> Lunar Boom Town participant list.

The Diamond Age
Hi Mirwin,

I don't know how long it will take the read the book. I'm a bit of a slow reader and the book is pretty thick. At the moment i am working on my first fulltime job and my leisure time is limited. I still have to get used to it. Also, i will find try to find a new job for january and i don't know how busy i will be with it. I could try to read it fast, or that we will discuss a part of the book. In my study, i was forced to read very fast and i still was able to grasp what it is about.

I like the book, though. It is funny. Stephenson is a good writer. It is a bit utopical about the future. But, i like the major theme of the difference between victorianism and confucianism. In which victorians strife to achieve a fullfilling life and confucianists strife to accept life, i guess. A highly religious and philosophical topic.--Daanschr 11:51, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

lunar surface
For planning a lunar landing mission a view from a telescope on earth (or even using the Hubble) would not be high enough resolution. For this purpose you would want to use imagary from an orbiting spacecraft. In particular you probably want something like the mineral moon if you are interested in planning mining. For instance, go to Lunar Prospector Data Maps and set the pull down menu to something like iron. Feel free to drop me a note if you'd like more information. BTW, there is one image that I uploaded of the moon. It was taken through the viewfinder (not the main telescope) using a comsumer grade handheld camera. I do have a few other self made images on my computer at work. --mikeu 01:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It was a clear night tonight so I took a snapshot of Image:Copernicus (lunar crater).jpg --mikeu 04:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * "I am interested in using some of your astronomical images..." <-- What software do you use for image processing?  You would get the best quality if I sent you the raw images instead of jpg.  The cameras I use save files in a unique astronomy format called Flexible Image Transport System.  Fortunately, there are plugins to read these files for common programs like IrfanView or the FITS Liberator plugin for PhotosShop.  --mikeu 18:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * A few more images are uploaded to Category:Moon Images. These are thumbnail size (stills from a video camera.)  BTW, gimp supports the FITS astronomy image format  if you want to play around with the raw image files.  --mikeu 20:28, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

thanks for the barnstar
"tireless thinking, discussion, experimentation..." <-- Back in the early 90s I was frustrated with the limitations of internet forum/discussion software and wished for a way to make it easy for groups of people to easily edit a website. I was involved with some non-wiki collaborative projects such as Zeal, but got disillusioned by the fact that they were all trying to use the contributions of volunteers in an effort to make a profit for the owners. When I found Wikipedia I was initially worried that Jimbo would sell out to the highest bidder. When he created the Wikimedia Foundation it became clear that Wikimedia was different, so I got serious about participating in the Wikimedia community. It did not take too long before I was frustrated with the limitations of the Wikipedia model and I soon found myself exploring Wikibooks and Wikiversity. As things shook out, Wikiversity became an opportunity to move beyond some of the limitations that exist within Wikipedia, so I have been mostly editing pages related to Wikiversity for the past two years. It is a whole lot of fun getting the chance to explore the possibilities of a technology I could only dream about 15 years ago. --JWSchmidt 16:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia project
No problem mentioning my name at wikipedia. BTW, did you notice User:HappyCamper here? I thought it would be a good idea to post something at the wikiproject now for when the next semester starts. Also, good work on the refs for the Wikiversity article!--mikeu 16:59, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Take a look at Special:Contributions/HappyCamper --mikeu 19:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip
Thanks for cluing me in to Wikiversity. I see that it would indeed resolve some difficulties with our recent project. I will certainly use it in the future. Mc2000 22:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

End of the The Diamond Age
Hi Mirwin,

Wow, you are quick! I don't have that feeling of magic what i can have with other books. It just doesn't thrill me. That is why i only read a small part of it untill now.

I dissagree with the kind of society that Stephenson portrays. It isn't realistic. Take Bud for instance. He robs a person in a world of billions of people and then the Ashantis gather from all over the world to hunt him. But there are many other parts which i didn't liked. I know there are fantasy or sci fi writers who are much better in presenting a good story.

Since we are both not impressed with this book, i think it is better to skip it. Though, it is fun to bash a book together.

Maybe you like to discuss another book and that i will present a title this time? A few months ago i read a highly controversial book, The Elementary Particles by the French writer Michel Houellebecq. To say upfront, i dissagree with Houellebecq but at the same time he also makes some remarks which are to the point about our society at the moment. We could also discuss complete fantasy, like a book of George R. R. Martin which i enjoyed. Or perhaps a non-fiction book. At the moment Geert Mak's In Europe is being broadcasted on the Dutch television. It is about Europe in the 20th century. He interviews people who were there at the times that something bigs happenend. For instance he interviews the grandson of Gavrilo Princip and the grandson of Franz Ferdinand, who was murdered by Princip in 1914, which was the beginning of the First World War.--Daanschr 09:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I read some of the books of Houellebecq and Martin. I didn't read Mak yet.--Daanschr 09:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Here are some links:
 * The Elementary Particles by Michel Houellebecq
 * A Song of Ice and Fire by George Martin
 * Geert Mak
 * --Daanschr 09:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I just read the article on Geert Mak on Wikipedia. I don't think the book is half as impressive as the television serie. The book is some kind of travel book. On television there are interviews with many people from all over Europe which gives a very blunt view of what happened. It is very popular in Holland nearly a million viewers, which is 1 in every 20 Dutch people. Some of the highest scores for a television program and it is a documentary, so that makes it the more impressive.--Daanschr 09:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Future of our little reading group
Hi Mirwin,

Another plan: trying to do some growth management. The initial idea behind reading groups was to help make Wikiversity a succes. At the moment there are three people who have solitarily started a reading group, namely Cormac, John and Brent. There are two active groups, me and you and me, Erkan and Anne. Some growth management could be to ask Cormac, John and Brent wether they have an idea what to do as a group. Another would be to ask Hillgentleman and S.B. Johnny to join. Hillgentleman seems to be enthusiastic about the reading groups and S.B. Johnny wants to do some growth management. Allthough the reading groups seem to be only indirectly linked to growth management, it still has to do with the heart of the idea behind the reading groups, to somehow get more attention for Wikiversity. What do you think? (We can skip my book suggestions).--Daanschr 20:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I will leave a message on the Topic:Reading groups article on the meeting this weekend. We don't necessarily have to discuss Thucydides. Instead we can also discuss the reading groups in general and focus on growth management, so you can be able to start a lunar town reading group with new participants in the future. If we focus on ancient Greece, than we will probably only get people interested in ancient Greece.--Daanschr 09:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Message
Hi Mirwin - did I get a message from you on Wikipedia? I'm a little confused! --HappyCamper 20:44, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * So, the idea is to make Wikiversity more transparent to academics? --HappyCamper 21:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

lost content
I saw this. The Modeling and Animation Clips using Art of Illusion page was a redirect to A Hands-On Introduction to Game Design and Production Processes. I see no evidence that the deleted page ever used Image:LunarRoverTestShot2.jpg. --JWSchmidt 00:56, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Materials related equations
Dear Mirwin,

I'v been contributing equations to a section about Materials Science with the IP address 74.132.44.120. Choice of content has come in part from books and extra information copied from wikipedia articles. A hope is to contribute to wikiversity during the process of preparing before an upcoming graduate qualifying exam. I'm a Baha'i and believe that "supreme happiness is man’s...if he urges on the steed of high endeavor in the arena of civilization and justice." ('Abdu'l-Baha)

A link to a web log that I created about science and religion is copied below.

http://www.onethread.org/arise/

Do you believe it would be helpful if I sent the titles of a few materials science related textbooks?

Well wishes and I appreciate the welcome,

David Dgray 08:35, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Dear Mirwin,

Collaborating in reorganizing the material seems great, and it does seem that discussing an approach in February would likely be most appropriate.

Dgray 03:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Meeting next sunday
Hi Mike,

I will be moving to a new home on sunday and will not have internet yet. I will not be able to be around on sunday evening and i don't know when i will be available again. You will have to continue the reading groups with Erkan and Sunny for the moment being.--Daanschr 17:16, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Lunarpedia Query
Where would the local wiki admins prefer that an article on Wikiversity's Lunar Boom Town project be placed or categorized? We would like to grow into a heterogenous community of learners, planners, engineers, entrepreneurs, etc. required to get some pioneering venture teams rolling. Wikiversity user:mirwin


 * We don't have much in the way of firm article naming conventions. Please just use your best judgement (or even guess).  If a far better name is figured out later the article can be moved easily to that name.  Categorization depends on what you're putting into the article.  If it's simply describing the project at Wikiversity it probably belongs in Category:Internet Resources; if you're making an extension of the Wikiversity project or something else heavy in content, then there's likely more than one place it could be placed and I'm not thinking of the best one off of the top of my head.  It may even be best to create a new category if it's sufficiently different from things we already have -- or most especially if it spreads to more than just one article.  When in doubt, leave it blank and someone else will figure it out.


 * We're quite permissive about stub content -- as much as Wikipedia used to be but isn't anymore. Please feel free to put an unfinished or even highly sketchy page on Lunarpedia. Just try to make sure it won't be confused for being part of yet another botnet attack. 8)


 * --Strangelv (Lunarpedia) 71.96.218.8 07:24, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Good work on this project. It looks like content on wikiversity is GPL, same as wikipedia. So you could import it here using the same namespace mechanism as importing a WP article. I would recommend linking it to one or more or all of the following categories: Cfrjlr 15:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * [Category:Settlement]]
 * [Category:Locations]]
 * [Category:Business]]
 * [Category:Architecture]]
 * [Category:Planning]]

LBT in video
Take a look at the video linked to from Stanford Open Source Lab, LBT shown as an example about 25 minutes into the video. --JWSchmidt 04:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

robots.wikia.com, relevance to Wikiversity?
Hi Mirwin, Erkan thought you might be interested in my project, and that I might be interested in what you're doing, and in Wikiversity (English and German) in general. My project is robots.wikia.com, I'm trying to attract contributors there and elsewhere, feel free to have a look. - Dan Dank55 20:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

CisLunarFreighter commitment
I don't think I can participate right away. Things I need to work on first are assignments in my computer science class. Then after that I guess I can help work on it. So I'm interested in helping just don't expect my work immediately. --Devourer09 22:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

New meeting for discussing the future of the reading groups
Hi Mike,

Shall we meet next weekend on saturday evening 19:00 hour CET? I just added new ideas on the Portal:Reading groups/Organization Brainstorming IRC Session 30 Dec 2007 18:00 CET draft agenda. The agenda for the next meeting is a bit of a mess.

I will be online again on wednesday. Untill than i have limited or no access.--Daanschr 14:49, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your message on my talk page
Hi Mirwin,

Sorry for the late response. Regarding your note on my talk page -- a blog post about the sandbox server open for hackers -- to be honest I don't think software development will play a big role in the shaping of the sandbox server. It's there to provide very simple technical infrastructure to aid in learning projects.

For people learning technical courses, web design students have the file hosting and the server isn't setup to be a compile farm yet. I'm looking into providing free web hosting with PHP/MySQL etc., but I think you'll find most hackers would prefer to run their own infrastructure or at least manage it themselves.

The only real technical things happening are some MediaWiki extensions, and I've delegated that issue to darkcode who would be in a better position to handle people wishing to contribute.

Hope this answers your question -- if not, please email me at draicone at gmail dot come and I'd be happy to discuss it. (I don't check my user talk page often, as you might have guessed!)

Draicone (talk) 10:00, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

clocks
Whenever I do the --km 22:49, 24 January 2008 (UTC), <— the time comes up different than what I see on my computer. I notice that it always comes out as (UTC) but I live in (EST). No matter what I do to fix it, I can't. (even on preferences). What should I do? --km 22:49, 24 January 2008 (UTC)