User talk:Poetlister

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 Hi! My name is WikiversityJack. I am a pumpkin and a Wikiversity mascot. My aunt told me that fun + learning = Wikiversity. Let me know if I can help you out.

Welcome back
There was an RfD filed over your translation project, someone should have notified you, I'd think. Non-Wikiversitans, even if very sophisticated as to, say, Wikipedia policy, often have no clue as to what we are about. This is a radically inclusive environment, much more like academia than reductionist publications. See. Be nice. There isn't a snowballs' chance that this will be deleted, my opinion. But we do occasionally have a little weird politics, like all wikis. I'll be watching. Good luck. --Abd 03:54, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Refiled at the same link. The discussion of 'how to translate' and biography are fine; the duplication of wikisource work is out of scope. –SJ + >
 * In addition to my response on the RfD page, I dropped Sj a note explaining how Wikiversity and Wikiversity resources differ greatly from page concepts at other WMF wikis. --Abd 18:27, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

astronomy
Hello, thought you might be interested in Observational astronomy. --mikeu talk 12:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * An interesting activity for meteor observing might be to encourage Visual Meteor Observation. I plan on using a wide field of view digital camera to record meteors as I've previously described at SkyCam/Testing. --mikeu talk 16:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

new learning project
I mentioned the idea that we could start a learning project at Wikiversity and explore the truth about Wikimedia participants: Edit using your real name. I think that page should be part of the initiative from the WMF Board for Openness. --JWSchmidt 16:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Could use a statistician
I'm wondering if you'd like to co-author a study that would be kind of fun? -- Thekohser 17:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

RFC
An RFC on a global ban for you has been opened on Meta. You are invited to respond there. –SJ + > 17:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
 * A proper notice, but too late, suggesting that Poetlister comment after a large number of very hostile comments have come in is like asking him to walk outside, please, where the firing squad is assembled and waiting. Normally, users are noticed about process concerning them immediately, so that they may immediately respond before the "jury" has spoken. Many users who comment early on will never again look at the process. In fact, normal dispute resolution process would be to ask a user to cease problematic activity before even starting community process like RfC.


 * Still, Poetlister is not blocked on meta, and should be allowed to comment if he chooses. However, this user is only active at Wikiversity, and should not have to defend that activity in some other venue. The meta RfC is entirely in the wrong place, where Poetlister will find himself surrounded by an active body of users out to prevent him from editing here based on allegations about activity elsewhere. Sj, I strongly urge you to act to seek close of that RfC as premature, that if there is a problem with Poetlister editing Wikiversity, such problems should always be addressed on the involved wiki. Only if a true global problem emerges should it be addressed globally, and even there, tradition is strong that local wikis can opt out of global "solutions." There is no global problem, the only global activity around Poetlister, shown in any of the evidence, is old, and the true problems are very old.


 * Poetlister, if you do comment at meta, I suggest you carefully avoid defending yourself. Instead, present your willingness, if this is the case, to answer questions about your past, ancient and recent, openly and honestly, without defense or self-justification, and without attacking those who have criticized you. What happened happened, just let it be that, so that everyone can move on. If you are tempted to counterattack, sit on your hands or something. If you are asked a question that you don't choose to answer, say so, do not be evasive. Do not even attack the question as improper. Just say no, i.e, "no comment," or whatever is appropriate. Let others defend you, if that is to happen. (If it doesn't happen, shame on the community.) If users err in the defense, correct them as well. "Thanks for AGF, but I done wrong."


 * Whatever argument you present in your defense will just make you look worse, unless it is matter-of-fact and necessary. Just the facts. --Abd 18:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Poetlister elected to not respond at meta, and, from the history that I have reviewed, that may have been a rational decision. It would simply have increased in volume an already-disruptive process, without changing the result at all. --Abd 16:40, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Global lock of Poetlister accounts
Per global ban discussion at meta, Poetlister has been globally locked. This means that Poetlister cannot edit any WMF wiki using the linked SUL account with that name. The local account may be used if it is delinked, which requires a bureaucrat, and has been done with prior global bans. If anyone wishes to contact him, the email function works. --Abd 16:37, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Due to the above described lock, Poetlister has been unable to correct and improve Averages. He did the work at, and requested my assistance at bringing this to Wikiversity. As he is a user in good standing here, I am assisting without specific review of the material, but I will review any changes to the page. He could have made the same changes himself as an IP editor, with disclosure of his identity.) I thank him for his work on behalf of Wikiversity. --Abd 14:40, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Many thanks.--Poetlister 12:01, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

I've blocked your alternate account pending consensus to allow you to bypass the global lock. --SB_Johnny talk 22:03, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I am opening up Poetlister1 for communication, changing the redirect. Poetlister1, being blocked, cannot now edit this page. I will copy the comment here to that talk page. --Abd 22:14, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Abd. I hadn't thought of that! --SB_Johnny talk 22:15, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Your alternate account, Poetlister1
This note is to confirm that I've verified, with you personally, based on email contact with known Poetlister email address (as may be reached through the Wikiversity interface), that you are Poetlister1, confirming that the edits Poetlister1 made to connect these accounts were actually made by you, and you are responsible for Poetlister1 edits.

I will also confirm, for possible interest of stewards responding to a request to lock Poetlister1, that you are editing with my understanding and consent as a Wikiversity administrator, and that I am watching your edits to ensure that there is no disruptive behavior. I'll confirm as well that I have seen no disruption from you at Wikiversity at all, since you began editing here. You are an editor in good standing here, and welcome as that. --Abd 21:41, 6 November 2011 (UTC)