User talk:Private lecturer (celestial)

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Regarding Ethics/Life after death
You appear to be writing this resource from a religious point of view. Can you please clarify what system of religious beliefs is being applied here? Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 01:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm trying to describe a factual, rational point of view while avoiding scientific explanations that could be seen to contradict some religions. Religions are, however, full of metaphorical meaning and interpreting metaphorical meaning is sometimes what you have to do to gain full understanding of a matter, but many metaphors have multiple interpretations, so it is rather complex to truely explain all possible interpretations at once. Thus I avoid explanations that are not well-suited for public debate. You would have to understand the individual student's position in the curriculum to be able to talk to him or her adequately and that is not possible on a wiki page. To actually answer your question: Generally I see Christian and Muslim beliefs as the most relevant and detailed for a suitable description of the afterlife, but the buddhist nirvana, for instance, also does have several metaphorical interpretations that are relevant and could even be seen as a sufficient explanation, only older and less detailed than Christian belief. So I do not actually need a single religion to explain what all religions, that do describe a life after death, are in essence trying to convey, when the goal is to describe the true meaning. --Private lecturer (celestial) (discuss • contribs) 11:55, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The Buddhist nirvana: It appears to be about space, so that means heaven. The sky does contain other worlds, thus it is about the otherworld (only that is not in the sky). People who go there appear to no longer exist, thus they have entered the otherworld, which is not visible to human beings. And according to Buddhist belief you go their, because your personality has reached a level of development that is sufficient for the nirvana. I could easily put Saint Peter in front of the nirvana and allow him to judge the applicants, that would in principle not be in strong contradiction with Buddhism, but obviously one could already be criticized for the attempt to reinterpret some finer details of Buddhism and consequently I try not to do that. --Private lecturer (celestial) (discuss • contribs) 12:16, 5 December 2023 (UTC)




 * I could, for instance, rearrange the symbols for the integration circle in the diagram to vaguely spell something like "EDOM", put that below the sub-process integration circle and then I would have, amusingly, a map of the ancient kingdom of Edom, south of the Dead Sea (represented by the empty sub-process). That is too funny and not a well-respected metaphor, but what is too difficult for God? A funny reference to future knowledge is surely not a problem. There is, however, little point to discuss that with Christian theologists as an adequate metaphor, so I don't suggest it is a valid metaphor. The Edomites of the Bible, however, do make sense as a population that can be imagined to ascend to heaven, too. This does make theological sense, because they were assimilated by the ancient Jews and at some time vanished as an independent ethnic group. The diagram would, so to speak, be the map to heaven that was not properly communicated by the ancient Jews, because they did not understand BPMN 2.0 yet. But that is also a joke, because it was properly communicated, only some people were not listening properly and educational improvements to Christianity are left as an exercise to the reader. Many educational improvements, of course, already happened since Charlemagne, who already was an educational reformer. Please feel free to go ahead. The point being, of course, that civilization prevails. --Private lecturer (celestial) (discuss • contribs) 15:28, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The land Canaan is, of course, also associated with the Biblical Promised Land, which can be reinterpreted as a promised territory in which migrants find refuge and this then would metaphorically and applying the categorical imperative include heaven as a refuge for humanity for a live after death. According to the categorical imnperative, of course, one should strive to provide refuge to migrants, especially during climate change, who may otherwise not survive in their state of origin. --Private lecturer (celestial) (discuss • contribs) 16:17, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Please avoid blanking discussions without any explanation
I have reverted your removal at Talk:Ethics/Life after death. This is a discussion which includes comments from other(s), and should not be blanked. Ended discussions can be archived, but they should remain visible in archive subpages. Thank you for your attention. MathXplore (discuss • contribs) 05:07, 24 December 2023 (UTC)