User talk:Robert Elliott

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eMail Me!
See my user page for my email address... or click the "E-mail this user" button on the left side if the page.

Students, put your messages here!
hmmm. no activity since 2010 ?? --Filmfroggie 06:39, 6 October 2011 (UTC) Anything going on here ?

Quiz Extension
Thank you for your interest and comments in the quiz extension, I have left a couple of replies for you over at Help talk:Quiz. McCormack 05:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Would you like to sign up for the quiz project? It's for everyone at Wikipedia who is involved with the quiz extension and its use. McCormack 07:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)



wikijack
"a picture which I think you created which looks like Wikiversity icon at Holloween" <-- Take a look at User:WikiversityJack. Let me know if you were looking for something else. --JWSchmidt 13:28, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent artwork Robert Elliott 20:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Special:Prefixindex
Hi Robert, I just learnt something and I thought I'd pass it on (and apologies if you already knew it). There's a function in Mediawiki, Special:Prefixindex, that allows you to select pages that begin with a specific text. So, for example Special:Prefixindex/Lesson gives you all the pages beginning with "lesson" and no others (as you would get in Special:Allpages). I know you're using your own kinds of "namespaces" so I thought it might be useful. Cormaggio talk 16:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I just tried this. Very useful!  Robert Elliott 13:36, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Interesting templates
Thanks. However, I'm a little puzzled. Whereas Wikiversity is a place for lessons (as far as I've been able to tell so far), these Primary ESL pages seem to contain lesson plans. That is, they're aimed not at primary school ESL students but at primary school ESL teachers. It would be a shame to just toss this stuff, it would be far more useful to expand on it but is this the place and if not, then I wonder where is. What are your thoughts on it? Jimp 01:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You've replied:


 * No one at Wikiversity has the foggiest idea what we are doing. Lot of people are running around saying "this and that" is what we do but no one has actually done anything. (After 8 months full time, I am just barely getting started.)
 * Therefore, if whatever you want to do is in any way educational, you can do it.
 * In about ten years, we will all look back and see what direction we should have taken here. But for now, you are on your own to decide what is possible. No one else knows.


 * Thanks - I kind of like that answer. I reckon I'll just keep on doing what seems useful i.e. expanding on those lesson plans. Jimp 05:45, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Welcome messages
Hmm...what exactly did you have in mind? We have Template:Welcome, but maybe we can make one specific to the film school? --HappyCamper 05:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * In that case, maybe an about template should be made...where people can fill in the blanks, and follow a list of instructions specific to the film school somewhere. --HappyCamper 15:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Robert, I'm so sorry. I should have written something to you much earlier. My mind just hasn't been focused on this Wiki lately. I hope w:Help:Template will be most helpful. There is a section specific for parameters. The template could have something that reads along the lines:


 * Hi there and welcome to Wikiversity. I'm a member of  and I thought you might be interested in joining our learning project here . Here are some project specific links you might find useful:
 * 
 * 
 * 


 * So, everything in the angled brackets would be filled in with those template parameters. But this might turn out to be too cumbersome, since it might be too generic for what you need. In that case, it might be easiest to make a subpage somewhere, say, User talk:Robert Elliott/Film school welcome, and put a fixed welcome message there. Then, you can type (and save afterwards) on the film school student's talk page, and the tailored welcome message would be there. --HappyCamper 04:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * How about w:Template:Infobox scientist? The fields could be changed, but it would look something like this. The template can have a link to .jpg, which would be a picture of the student. --HappyCamper 14:28, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser discussions
Hi Robert Elliott. If you can spare the time, your opinion would be greatly appreciated in the discussion currently going on about getting local Checkuser permissions here on Wikiversity. As an active user here, you're probably familiar with the "quiet, behind the scenes" way that we introduce new Custodians, but requesting Checkuser actually requires a "show of support" for the foundation stewards to give us this tool.

If you're not familiar with Checkuser, it's a tool we can use to find the source IP address (and/or alternate accounts) of vandals and others who mean harm to the project. This allows us to both "stop the problem at the source", or in some cases lets us know we can't stop something at the source if an IP is shared by one or more constructive contributors. --SB_Johnny | talk 11:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Color Problems
ping Erkan Yilmaz ( evaluate me!, discussion ) 08:09, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Robert, I have some recommendation about the table, could you have a look at John's page so I get your view on this ? Thx, Erkan Yilmaz ( evaluate me!, discussion ) 09:04, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Robert, I just proposed some recommendations, please do not see it as critique on you. On the contrary: you told a major prob in my view and we must thank you for that. As you will know there is always something to improve. But as it is also always: we must prioritize, we do not have unlimited resources. So, keep up the good work. We need more people like you. See my comment also in the colloquium. Erkan Yilmaz ( my talk page, wiki blog ) 16:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Subpages
Hi Robert Elliot. "Subpages" are made by using a forward slash, and takes advantage of some built-in mediawiki features that allows you to go from the subpage back up to the main page without needing a template.

For example, look at the top of Bloom Clock/Graphical Keys for Southeastern Pennsylvania. You'll see there a small-font link to the Bloom Clock. Likewise, if you look at Bloom Clock/Herbaceous plants with pink flowers seen in September in Southeastern Pennsylvania/DPL (a subpage of a subpage) has links to both pages. I'm not sure if all of our wikiversity namespaces have this enabled, but the main and Wikiversity namespaces do. --SB_Johnny | talk 16:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Yep. I second all that. They're nice to keep content organized. They are actually a feature built into the Mediawiki software that all the Wikimedia Foundation's wikis are run. The software automatically creates a link back to the main page that the subpage is built around. Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages may be helpful. Wikibooks uses subpages a lot a lot. Wikipedia reserves them mostly for userpages. So far, Wikiversity seems to be somewhere in between. Wikisource uses them a lot as well. I hope that helps. --Remi 06:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * To make it a bit more complicated, it's actually an optional feature for each namespace. Wikipedia, for example, doesn't have subpages enabled for it's main namespace (i.e., adding a / in a page title will not make it behave like a subpage). AFAIK, only Wikiversity, Wikibooks, and Wikisource have it enabled in the main namespace :). --SB_Johnny | talk 09:32, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikiversity screen saver
Hi Robert, did you see this already ? I have a question: at the moment the screen saver consists of 2 pictures as you will see. Since you are the course teacher for filmmaking, do you have some ideas/apps to make the pictures better or other ideas ? e.g. 3D or so, completely other pics, ... Your suggestions would be very appreciated. See you, Erkan Yilmaz ( my talk page, wiki blog ) 15:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If you want to answer, please do it here. I will write to some graphics users, so it all is collected on one place. Erkan Yilmaz ( my talk page, wiki blog ) 17:32, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Face24mmtiny.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Face24mmtiny.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikiversity because of copyright law (see Wikiversity' Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikibooks are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this:.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information or giving false information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at Colloquim. Thank you. – Mike.lifeguard &#124; talk 23:36, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Fdhomebanner.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Fdhomebanner.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikiversity because of copyright law (see Wikiversity' Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikibooks are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this:.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information or giving false information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at Colloquim. Thank you. – Mike.lifeguard &#124; talk 23:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I really need you to find all your image uploads and tag them with appropriate license information. If you don't, they will be deleted, per policy. – Mike.lifeguard &#124; talk 23:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I've replied on my talk page. Please add it to your watchlist so you can easily tell when I've replied. To do this, pres the watch tab at the top of the page. – Mike.lifeguard &#124; talk 02:23, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

New "image rights" question at Wikiversity

 * moved from my talk at en.wb

Please look at a new "image rights" question at Wikiversity Colloquium - "Image license - Human likeness" about the use of screen shots from a school motion picture to identify the characters in movie for a lesson at Wikiversity about the movie. The pictures will be used with the permission of the movie's instructor (John Marsh at Community College of Southern Nevada) who does not want the pictures used for any commercial purpose but will allow Wikiversity to use the photos (screen shots) from the movie for educational purposes. What is the correct license for this? Robert Elliott 01:44, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Any license specifying non-commercial use only is GFDL-incompatible. Fair use would be your only alternative. For licensing questions, your best bet will always be to ask at Commons - they deal only with images, so they really know their stuff. – Mike.lifeguard &#124; talk 14:44, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Front Page Exposure
Robert, I am curious. Do you feel that exposure as featured content and link on the main page has attracted any traffic that resulted in student participation in your classes? Mirwin 05:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Interesting! Thanks for the information. Mirwin 19:09, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Category:Page creation templates
Robert Elliott, Some of the pages that you created are in the "page creation templates" category. Hillgentleman|Talk 05:03, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I just noticed that. I sometimes forget to add a category to a page.  The category comes from the master page.  I am not sure how to do this any differently.  Robert Elliott 09:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * You may remove the text at the bottom of your lesson page, as I did here .   I have "noincluded" it in the template;  so your pages will not be getting the unwanted category any more. :-) Hillgentleman|Talk 07:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It is on my list of things to do. But you have to have at least one category listed. I have to find the right ones.  Robert Elliott 10:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Film Course discussed in Wikimedia Foundation discussion thread
You might be interested this discussion thread. There has been a comment about the limited amount "free software" available to build such a course around and also a question about why there is a disclaimer on the course for people under 18 years old. --JWSchmidt 19:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info. Robert Elliott 14:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

DAZ studio
Hi, JWS pointed me to DAZ and I've been playing around with the animation system for a while. I was wondering if you needed any help with that "future" course you were working on?--Rayc 05:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes! More shortly... Robert Elliott 05:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, as for free, as is beer, I've been able to find several sites offering props, clothing and characters for free. The licensing is all over the place for the free stuff (non-commercial use, free to with attribution, public domain, no license, etc...).  As for the animation, I've found that DAZ has a puppeteering system that lets you move between poses, and I'm currently looking at a way of saving simple movement patterns (like walking) and animating over that. --Rayc 19:31, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Is this what you were thinking? See Image:Daz-wikiversity-example-starwars.jpg.--Rayc 21:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Free Lance Opportunity
Robert, I am investigating this commercial site. It is a youtube competitor startup. It is very interesting to me because they propose to compensate content authors/owners for their efforts via micropayments tied to performance. It may be a way for beginners to transform to self supporting hobby, to decent partime job, to a living, to hit the bigtime. It is currently for artist mediums text, stills, video, and audio. Mirwin 10:27, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I will look at the Associated Content website. ~ Robert Elliott 15:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

diplomas
"A diploma might help create a tiny amount of motivation as the student nears the end of the course. For my lessons, the level of difficulty increases dramatically at the end so any motivation, no matter how small, is good.....a diploma for a course (or certificate of completion) could be valuable for...." getting a job. <-- I think we should explore ways to motivate learners at Wikiversity and look for ways to document what learners do at Wikiversity. The problem we face is that words such as "course", "teacher" and "diploma" have conventional meanings in our society, so we need to be careful how we use such terms. Many people see the word "diploma" and assume that it is linked to a specific learner who can be identified as a particular real world individual who can be shown to have completed a degree program at an accredited educational institution where the teachers have been certified as having a specified level of expertise in a particular subject area. Since Wikiversity has no means to certify the identities of learners, the qualifications of teachers or to certify the quality of its learning resources, on what basis can we use the term "diploma" in a way that respects the conventional meaning of the term?

I can think of two basic directions to explore during our efforts to find ways to motivate learners at Wikiversity and create ways to document what learners do at Wikiversity. We might call these directions "inside Wikiversity" and "beyond Wikiversity". Beyond Wikiversity, it would be possible for an external "institution" to confirm rel world identities of students, make use of learning resources located at Wikiversity and issue diplomas. Inside Wikiversity, we can facilitate a process of portfolio construction for Wikiversity participants.....portfolio in the sense of, "a collection of work (eg, a history of wiki edits, uploaded files, etc.) that may be used to demonstrate competency in a subject area." If learners can document their learning through their history of wiki editing, then the Wikiversity community can review such editing histories in a formal way. When Wikiversity participants complete a unit of learning, the can add a summary of their learning activities to their portfolio along with links to their edit history. Other members of the Wikiversity community can then review the portfolio and comment on the edit history. The significance of those comments would only be meaningful if the edit histories of the people making the comments indicates some level of expertise by the commentator. For example, if your edit history showed that you had created a film making lesson and you commented that a student had done a good job completing the lesson, then that would be a basis for certification that the student had learned the lesson could include a completion certificate in their portfolio. We could have a system of userboxes that could be "awarded" to Wikiversity participants who are certified by the community as having completed lessons. It might be useful to explore a system by which the community could recognize participants who, based on their edit history, have expertise in a particular subject area. Such Wikiversity participants could be an important part of any community-based process for awarding "completion certificates" to Wikiversity participants who can demonstrate that they have learned something by participating (editing) at Wikiversity. --JWS 15:40, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Student's portfolio
 * This is identical to what I have been proposing though described more clearly than I did. But now I am still not sure how to implement this.  ~ Robert Elliott 16:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Film school in video
Take a look at the video linked from Stanford Open Source Lab, The film school is shown as an example about 26 minutes into the video. --JWSchmidt 04:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * "will we be given any notice before they pull the plug. I don't have copies of my content and I have not figured out a way to archive it" <-- I do not think you have to worry about Wikiversity pages disappearing. I think you can download all of the text pages for Wikiversity. I'm not sure about image files. --JWSchmidt 16:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Email lists -- could be done
Hi Robert, In Help:EMail_for_Teachers, you mention that Wikiversity doesn't have an option for allowing people to use e-mail lists. This could be addressed through the Sandbox server, if there was a need. I figured I'd ping you, rather then update the page, because I wasn't sure of what help an e-mail list would be to a Wikiversity course, per say. Historybuff 05:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:3duStaciLoRes 000 up.png
This image is licensed as "GNU" - this is not a license that exists; I assume you mean "GFDL" or "GPL." Regardless, please add the corresponding license template. – Mike.lifeguard &#124; @en.wb 22:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Moving pages
Hi Robert. You left a post which implied you had a need to move your pages around the place. I'd suggest the best solution for this is sysop status. I have no problem with long-standing users being made sysops just so that they can apply to sysop tools to their own projects (i.e. no wider obligations expected!), and will nominate you if you wish. Or is this an issue which would not be resolved with tools - i.e. you need an additional function which does not yet exist? Please clarify. --McCormack 07:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. I really hope I didn't offend you. I was trying to understand your needs. One of my guesses was that you wanted an enhanced "move" tool which simultaneously deleted pages and corrected links. Was I any closer with this guess? Or is it just a general wish for better organisation? I'd like this too, and have written an extension to help with this (the subpage extension) which I'm still waiting to have activated. I have a lot more ideas about reorganisation, but it's very hard to find the time. --McCormack 15:33, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Your long post on my talk page
Hi Robert. Thanks for your very long post, which I am still working my way through. I will be integrating this into the new Vision 2009. --McCormack 07:32, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

You wanna add some info here ?
Hello Robert, I am not sure if you saw this: User:OhanaUnited/Sister Projects Interview (background info) ? When you have some time, we would gladly see your input also, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 16:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Tertiary and secondary education
Hi Robert. One of the questions I need to ask you is whether you are involved with secondary education only, or with both tertiary and secondary education. Looking at your pages, this isn't fully clear to me - perhaps you teach courses across the divide? The reason I ask is that in some of my reorganisation attempts, I need to respect the proper categorisation of your content. --McCormack 04:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Robert, and thanks for your reply. Yes - your reply explains to me why the educational level wasn't fully clear to me, because you are indeed teaching across the divide. At the moment I am categorising your courses as "secondary" - e.g. at Portal:Secondary Education I've put it into the "featured content" box. Of course, in the grand scheme (!) of these new portals, courses can come under several different educational levels if needed. --McCormack 04:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Which subject area?
Me again. I notice that while your courses are well-categorised in a circular or island-like fashion, they don't link well into things like classical (high) school subjects, and I'm trying to do some additional categorisation here to see that your courses are better accessed from within the main wikiversity navigation system. Probably film-making is slightly interdisciplinary? For example, would it make sense to include "filmmaking" in categories such as "information technology" and "art and design"? I'm trying to think of terms which would be widely understood in secondary education. Thanks for helping me with this! --McCormack 04:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your very detailed reply about this. I think that for the moment, I will try a multiple classification. Perhaps filmmaking can go under "drama", which in turn can go under both "literature" and "other school subjects"; you've also already classified the courses as "media", which is something which should eventually end up at "information technology". In addition, I'll try to see that it fits into secondary, tertiary and non-formal education! The end result is that your courses should be accessible through the category scheme via a number of routes. --McCormack 05:11, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

List of completed courses
Thank you for your suggestion. Please see Help:Resources by completion status. You may also see that I have added a new Wikiversity navigation path to the bottom of the category tree system which appears on the main page and all major portals. --McCormack 09:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Robert and thanks for your reply. Your suggestion about auto-categorising is already there in the system. I'll implement your test box suggestion. --McCormack 04:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your message. Well, I can rephrase: I tried to put in auto-categorising, and I think it works, but it's quite possible there are bugs around the place. If you think a particularly resource is not getting categorised as it should, then please point me to the exact page for checking and testing. Thanks! --McCormack 06:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, I have created a project box for filmmaking. Add to your pages and see what happens. --McCormack 06:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. You are quite right to have high expectations, and my intentions are at least as high! I find your suggestions really good. For example, I'll get down to thinking about linking in categories to the template view itself. Technically it's not difficult; it's an issue of interfaces, space and user-friendliness. On the issue of automatically categorising the page it is in, the categorisation only occurs if the page in the main namespace. So one can add a template to a talk page or a help page without accidentally adding the page to the category. Do you follow? --McCormack 07:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your further reply. Just some thoughts about what to link to. At the beginning of the process of tagging resources, the top priority will be to get people to tag their courses with "complete" or "nearly complete", which means getting them to visit the help page. Later, when the tagging is mostly done and there is a higher awareness of tagging, then perhaps the priority will be getting poeple to a list of completed/nearly completed resources. In other words, the help link is currently a higher priority issue. On the other hand, I'll keep thinking. You are a good source of suggestions! --McCormack 16:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Good edit of the complete tag! --McCormack 18:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Modified template
Here is a version where you can optionally specify your own text (and links). It defaults to the version I created, but you can override it in the manner shown. --McCormack 04:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Code:

Produces:

Otherwise exactly the same template with the same categories, etc.

Completed course lists
Quote from you: ''However, my goal is very specific. I want to create a list of Traditional courses which are complete or ready for testing. This list is for a very select audience (the average person who comes to Wikiversity to learn.) Therefore, I will be creating a parallel list which will be based on your list. It should compliment what you are doing. ''


 * Replying: yes, I agree with and support this absolutely. I will give any help I can. --McCormack 16:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Replying to your puzzle about "complete lists" appearing. This is an issue of whether the page uses a CategoryTree or a standard SubCategory listing. On some of the Category pages, I have transcluded a template holding a category tree (inside a purple box) which folds out to show all the pages. However the normal subcategories show only subcategory trees and not the member pages. Am I making sense? --McCormack 21:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Not at all!!!! Robert Elliott 21:29, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

 ...but I could put it at the top of a category page and confuse the unwary.--McCormack 21:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, and thanks for your message. You seem to have understood the CategoryTree extension now! I agree with you that its output is not entirely user-friendly. The extension was programmed by Mediawiki user "Duesentrieb". It's very useful, but the interface options are a little limited. For example, it always shows the namespace and you can't move the subcategories below the pages at a particular level. One day it might be nice to update the extension with some more interface options. On the whole, though, I reckon it's an essential organisational tool. --McCormack 04:07, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Lifehacker
Congrats! :) WikiU Schools You in Film Making, Home or Otherwise -- Jtneill - Talk 11:19, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Templates
Hi and thanks for your message. I had a look at the template and could see nothing wrong, other than a lot more wiki markup than there needs to be. Perhaps the problem is with how you are trying to implement it in other pages? Perhaps you could show me an example of how you are inserting it into other pages? --McCormack 04:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Problem now solved. I think the reason was that in your more complicated version of the template, you had a format error somewhere. As soon as I deleted your version and left my simpler one, the template started transcluding properly! Glad you like the simpler version :) --McCormack 10:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Broken template
Thanks for the message. Yes - I realised I had done something wrong, but I couldn't see what, until just now! Fixed now, I think. --McCormack 11:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Current month
A bit more complicated, but here it is:

--SB_Johnny | talk 13:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Film school site map
Hi! I made some minor changes at Film school:site map. Hope you don't mind ;) Other: maybe you already know, but there are 2 very similar categories Category:3D Storyboard Lesson and Category:3D Storyboarding Lesson. I didn't want to move them, because the hierarchical structure of the film school is not known to me. --Gbaor 05:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Idea for quizzes
Hi Robert. This solution isn't quite as elegant as just having a quiz appear on a page, but it does let people answer and submit. Let me know if it's on the right track and I can try to develop it further:

User:SB Johnny/quiz experiment 1

--SB_Johnny | talk 11:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Elegant?
 * Yes, that is not the elegance I had hoped for.


 * I was looking for something more like this... (non-working example only)




 * Rather than say "create page", the function would say "Submit".


 * Rough idea of coding
 * This might be created with the function :




 * Variable
 * Then I could use the answer as a in a template. Robert Elliott 12:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see how that can work... you're going to need some sort of substitution and transclusion in order to create "stable" text that will be around for viewing later. I'm fairly certain that can't be done in the "elegant" way you want. I guess the point is that while the templating does require a very small amount of wiki-editing, the template itself can be designed to teach them how to use it while in the process of using it. There's really no harm in at least introducing your students to the most rudimentary parts of wiki-editing, and at best they might take to it and become involved in other aspects of Wikiversity as a whole! --SB_Johnny | talk 13:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Tuxpaint Video
Hello Robert, I thought you might find this useful for one of your pages, I'm not really sure. Here's some info about Ogghandler just in case. Warm Regards Chrismo 11:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

WV group photo
Hello Robert, do you have perhaps a tool to make these later into a group photo with some nice framework/design effects ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 23:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Holiday?
Hi Robert. I see you haven't edited for a couple of months. Hope it's a good holiday. Please drop a note on my talk page when you get back. --McCormack 05:02, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Robert, give a sign, we miss you ! Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 18:13, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikiversity the Movie
When you have time, could you look here please ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 18:13, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Where is Robert?
Does anyone know where Robert is? When does he come back? -- Ironcode 11:23, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Course assistance
Hi Robert, I've recently been looking through your course on film making and have been most impressed. I was wondering if you could give me some help in setting up my course, Drum set. I don't require help writing the text but I would like you to assist me in the setup and layout. Thanks, Rock drum (talk • contribs) 14:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC) P.S. Please reply here but leave a notice on my talk page. Rock drum (talk • contribs)

Help Me learn
Help me get to the Wikiversity SchoolBhainbore--Bhainbore 18:18, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

are you still there?
just reviewing my blog + remembered you were gone, seems you are still MIA :-( Where are though? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat + Identi.ca 19:48, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

pagemove
Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 18:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)