User talk:Silwilhith

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Original Research
If you'd like to do original research, I think the school(s) you might want to go to are the one(s) whose topics are relevant to your research. You may also want to see Portal:Research. --AFriedman (talk) 00:30, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks AFriedman. But I don't want to make again in a Virtual University the "mistake" I did in a 'real' university. My question of research is cross-disciplinary and I realised too late that the "chapels" (the theorical fields used by disciplines) are not organised in the same ways between (at least) anglo-american countries and France (and I suspect other countries have also other "traditions"). I mean on the wikiversité-fr it would falls undubitiously into a "Management School" whereas (from my recent experience in real life) it could (?) fall into Sociology on wikiversity-en, if not in Political Science. In other words it has been obvious to me that the "scientific traditions" are not the same between countries. But as my object of research interests English and French-speakers it is better to publish it in English rather than in French. So when you realise that your object of research doesn't fit into the 'room' that you thought, what do you do? Cheers. -- Silwilhith 02:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

You put it in more than one room. Also, On Wikiversity, it's pretty difficult to make a "mistake" that way. Anything can be fixed in pretty short order. Anyway, if you describe what your research project is and ask people what school it belongs in, they'll help you with that. I can't help you, given that I don't know what research project you're doing. --AFriedman (talk) 03:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point! :-) Hereafter is what I just published on Talk:Principles of Management:
 * I have been working (researching) during 2009 on the "surprising" translation of Henri Fayol book from French into English. To the bilingual readers from a French (cultural) background who get a chance to read fluently the three versions (original, Coubrough, and Storrs) the first impression is that these two translators had make a very poor job. From a very benevolent and sociological approach of Chief-Workers relationships, the English versions look quite "militaristic" and almost totally deprivated of its social consideration by the change of words, or of meaning of words between languages.
 * But I made next an institutional analysis of France and USA and found that the respective workforces were very different, causing different needs in term of management. After exploring the possibilities of various theoretical approaches (Foucault, Ricoeur, Habermas, Chomski, Rawls) I finally decided myself for using an Habermasian grid of reading on the cross-textual analysis, and to explain these changes with the Reflective Equilibrium of Rawls, in order to "lift the veil of ignorance" on the differences between traditional French (pre-1968) and American (pre-2000?) management styles and ethics.
 * My "problem" is that if this topic would completely fall into a Management School in France (because French scholars don't have any "ideological" issues for using Political Science theories in Strategic management researches), it appeared to me that it was a bit "avant-gardiste" in Anglo-American management schools and that my topic would be more welcome in a School of Sociology.
 * I would add that:
 * 50% of my sources (primary & secondary) are in French, the other half in English.
 * The question is 'banal' to researchers in linguistics (especially because they fully understand the concept of "Belle Infidèle" [heart-breaker] coined by Gilles Ménage [16th Century philosopher] about Latin-French translations) but some don't welcome that I challenge their current practices for translating management books.
 * It drives to questionning the moral values (ethics) of these two societies (French & Anglo-American) over which their respective management practices were built.
 * It also drives to educational considerations because the knowledge provided to kids (during primary and secondary education) is not the same everywhere. And it has an impact on management in term of leadership, because the cognitive reasonning, at a 'national' level, can change from country to country.
 * It would show that French Grande Écoles are not just "elite schools" but have a "virtue" specific to France (and I think also applicable to neighbouring countries occupied by Napoleonic troops and then turned into French Départements, like Belgium, Netherlands, Western Germany [Hamburg to Stuttgart], and North Italy)
 * I would explain why (despite opinion of Foucault) for the French people "power is not everywhere" but only in the hands of few people limited democratically to their strict purpose; and that it was very certainly not a matter of interest or consideration for Fayol when he "designed" his "best practices for managing an organisation" in French; though I can 'feel it' in the English translations.
 * I am very weak (quite unskilled) in academic writing, especially in English (never learnt). But I just found the 'Manual' of Kate Turabian which looks helpful (although I followed the Chicago-style recommended steps of research in the reverse order). :-) However I should have a look asap to the APA style too.
 * Thanks a lot in advance for your suggestions. -- Silwilhith 05:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It would show that French Grande Écoles are not just "elite schools" but have a "virtue" specific to France (and I think also applicable to neighbouring countries occupied by Napoleonic troops and then turned into French Départements, like Belgium, Netherlands, Western Germany [Hamburg to Stuttgart], and North Italy)
 * I would explain why (despite opinion of Foucault) for the French people "power is not everywhere" but only in the hands of few people limited democratically to their strict purpose; and that it was very certainly not a matter of interest or consideration for Fayol when he "designed" his "best practices for managing an organisation" in French; though I can 'feel it' in the English translations.
 * I am very weak (quite unskilled) in academic writing, especially in English (never learnt). But I just found the 'Manual' of Kate Turabian which looks helpful (although I followed the Chicago-style recommended steps of research in the reverse order). :-) However I should have a look asap to the APA style too.
 * Thanks a lot in advance for your suggestions. -- Silwilhith 05:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

A few thoughts about where to put it:
 * French or European studies, since much of the OR requires a knowledge of French and it deals with French culture
 * Sociology, as you suggested
 * Management school is also appropriate, since it deals with management
 * Anthropology, if your OR is about cultural differences
 * Economics, if it addresses how economic productivity occurs

All else being equal, it's best to put links in more than one section of Wikiversity so more people can see your OR. More links also makes it higher on a Google search :). You may also want to add links to it from Wikipedia. --AFriedman (talk) 15:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Your "silly question"
.I see that you started to develop some research here, but also that you removed a question that you had posted as "silly."
 * Would you be ready to support a (sort of) "psychanalysis" of the (pre-2000?) American ethics in leadership?

It wasn't silly, in my view. Wikiversity can support original research, which includes essays and opinions on topics. You may develop an essay in your user space almost without restriction. You can just express what you think. You can develop it, if you like, into a resource that can be moved to mainspace, where it would be freely editable by anyone. Even in mainspace, original research and opinion may be allowed, it merely becomes more complex, because of fundamental WikiMedia Foundation neutrality policy.

I.e., "student exercises" and seminar-style discussion may be allowed in mainspace, with attributed opinion. So, to express your personal opinion, sign it or attribute it to yourself. Just don't pretend that it's Truth, i.e, accepted by everyone.

I hope you will consider participating in Wikiversity. One thing you should realize: there is not a lot of traffic here, and so a question might sit unanswered for years, even. Your question did not address anyone specific, so it would very possibly not have seen any answer, but I can tell you that Wikiversity, as a community, does "support" analysis of all kinds, providing that it is not grossly disruptive. The kind of analysis that is not supported is what would be characterized as personal attack. Unpopular theories can be presented here, with appropriate caution, that's all. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 13:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)