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Phizer pharmasuticals has just been handede a 2.3billion dollar CRIMINAL fine for bribing doctors to push new drugs. while the investicgating was ongoing the company continued to commit the aleged crimes. essentially they are a serial criminal and the fine amounts to ....get this 3 weeks of pfizer sales! the fines has been written off as "cost of doing buisness" totaly fuc*ed up harry

Dude! I saw that, big story! Amandavanpoucke

Week 8 Assessment
This is looking excellent right now. I believe Flynn is still going to add some content, and I see Elena already added a piece at the top about Bulgaria (I wonder if that could be made slightly longer, with more descriptions. What did the factory look like/smell like? What is it like to work there, or be denied work there? etc. "Day in the Life" stuff).

Beyond that, it sounds like you have some plans for the format, which I'm interested to see unfold. There are a few paragraphs at the end, right before the Reference section, which may not belong anymore.

Then, start editing!
 * Great work. Stevenarntson

PAPER IS POSTED
I transfered the paper to the main page so from this point on all new editing needs to be done to that copy..... Thank you!! Harry Caldwell 8-24 10:50pm

MIDTERM GRADES

 * Hello Analytical Writing groups,
 * Just a note to let you know I posted midterm grades today. These grades are not based on accumulated points,and have no permanent affect on anything, but I wanted to give the groups a heads up in terms of where I feel everyone is at. On week 7, your group will meet with me according to the following schedule. Please post all materials you can on your main page before that, so I can talk to you about it during our meeting.


 * Group 1: 12:30-1
 * Group 2: 1:10-1:40
 * Group 3: 1:50-2:20
 * Group 4: 2:30-2:50

All group members should be present and prepared to discuss what they're researching and writing.

Best, Stevenarntson

Sooooooo, we need a topic?

Yup, been reading about some stuff, I'm thinking American Corps would be the way to go, for me at least. There is tons of info and its a topic that really gets me fired up. Still looking at other stuff though, tech, privacy, etc. We'll talk more Monday. It's important that we get sure of something as soon as possible so we can get to researching.Amandavanpoucke

Are you talking about americorps?, I couldn't find much on them except what was on their site and wikipedia. I think your right that we need to just talk in class, not everyone is on this discussion yet. Flynn Joffray

No, Im talking about the industry itself, companies like Walmart. Here is a link to a very interesting article.]Amandavanpoucke

HAHA now it makes sense. I just searched for american corps in google and found americore... im down to do something on corporations, we should talk about it more in class. Flynn Joffray


 * Actually, Americorps would be an interesting aspect of a discussion on American Corporations!
 * Stevenarntson

Yea I'm still very interested in the technology and privacy issue but if everyone agrees to the Corporate America topic...then I still think we should make some ties to the social class issues then I would be happy. These two topics (corporate America and social class issues) are very related. I'm very interested in these things as well. See you all in class!!! Joshmaldonado

hei I do agree on the corporations topic I think there is alot be said about it, however I will not be able to come to class today, pls write ot the discussion page on what did you agree on:)I was thinking to do something on corporations vs. family businesses I will further reasurch for next week and I will post my info in here :) Elenatoteva

Hey there, Just wanted to touch base. I hope to come to class next week with an understanding of the basics of our topic, the what and hows i guess. I need a foundation of knowledge as a jump off point before heading into corporation-land.Amandavanpoucke

Hello! Just wanted to put my two cents in about which parts of the paper I am most interested in. I told most of you already but I wanted to post it in case anyone forgets. So my interest lies mainly in the social aspects of the topic and the consumer side. I would like to delve deeper into the effects of advertising as it relates to Corporations. Also I am interested in the way these coroporations affect the social class system. Cool...goodbye for now...still researching! Joshmaldonado

Hello, I'm kind of interested on corporation vs. small business issues(what are the plusses and minuses of both) and it would be great if I can talk/write about that. I found a bunch of INFO online but still keep researching the topic Elenatoteva

Here is a link to an interesting website. In particular, an easy read on advantages and disadvantages of corpsAmandavanpoucke

Hey there, I found an interesting document that apply to our topic there is a link check it out:) Elena Toteva http://www.unctad.org/en/docs/iteteb20037_en.pdf

Josh, there's is a lot of information on advertising and marketing in Part 2 of "The Corporation."link

Holy crap, I've found so much information today! There is a whole news based website called CRSwire, exactly on, and about the topics we are researching, here is the link.

I am on fire. Here is another awesome website..please visit

And another one

I found something else! You gotta look up this guy on youtube or where ever..John Perkins. Better yet, how about a link.]Amandavanpoucke

I propose a new and improved outline I will bring it to the meeting on Friday. We'll meet there at 7, but we maaaay have to go elsewhere. It will be slammin busy at 7 on a friday night, I may get distracted with my beer and noise. See you there! Harry, call if you need directions. It's called Endolyne Joe's. Amandavanpoucke

Josh another link, Nike and false advertising lawsuitAmandavanpoucke

Thanks for the links guys...are we still planning on tomorrow morning at the computer lab??? I will be there between 10 and 11am. I am loving all of the new material great job. I've been out of town this weekend at the gorge for Warped Tour but I have had a little bit of time today to work on my part...I still need plenty of work, mainly organizational stuff and it's coming. Thanks again for all of your help with research especially Amanda...see ya'll tomorrow my number is (206)473-0488 if you need to reach me...Joshmaldonado

THIS IS SO EXTREMELY ANNOYING TO ME....HOW DO WE WORK ON THE FLUIDITY OF ONE PAPER IF WE CANT PUT ONE PAPER ON THIS STUPID WIKI...? WE HAVE A DISCUSSION PAGE AND A FINAL DRAFT PAGE THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO PLUG STUFF INTO LATER, IN THE MEANTIME HOW CAN I ORGANIZE THE LAYOUT IF I CANT ACCESS IT??? THIS IS FUCKING STUPID. SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS, TO LATE TO FIX IT. PLEASE, I DONT MEAN TO YELL Amandavanpoucke

ok, so i cut and pasted our entire paper, all 7 pages so far, below UNDER MY NAME(NOTES). I have however been organizing it and trying to give it structure. Please work on and edit THAT copy, I hope that will serve as our unified final paper to turn in Monday.Amandavanpoucke

Hello? Is anyone out there? Could really use some help guys...? Let us know if/what you change, K.. and it would be nice to get a conclusion..Amandavanpoucke

I am here writing and stuff. edited my HM section mooving on to a conclushion...... and i am spent....... for the night. Harry Caldwell

I am here also. I added writing to my part yesterday. I will be away until tonight but I have plans to add even more to my part and to go over the paper to see if there are any changes...are we meeting tomorrow before the meeting...I kind of forgot the game plan could someone post our plan to this page...? ~ Josh M

Lets meet at 1:30, same place, what do you think? No need to meet much earlier than that, not sure what we will have to do other than printAmandavanpoucke

I like Harry, your conclusion rocks Amandavanpoucke

I added a solution looks like we are plugging along...I also like the conclusion great job Harry and Amanda you guys put so much effort into the research part of this paper. Have a good night and see ya'll tomorrow at 1:30 ~ Josh

Elena-I am having a hard time understanding some of the things you have written about.. the history and the relation between corps and individuals. One thing that needs to be brought up is the "triple bottom line" people, planet, profit. Could you perhaps spend some time editing it and re-wording some things, this is a very important section and we need to explain things clearly. If you need help, let me know, we're in this together :) Amandavanpoucke

Is anyone out there? Hello????? I feel like I've been talking to myself the last 3 or 4 weeks. I woke up sick today, so i wont be in class, let me know how it goes. I think the paper is coming along nicely. Still needs some work though. Good work Harry! Amandavanpoucke

Josh, you wrote "super" a lot. Is that how you like it, Super? haha I noticed some changes, great job guys. Please, just keep editing your stuff. Peace outAmandavanpoucke

Hello everyone...is there anything that needs to happen before tomorrow that hasn't already happened? Let me know if I need to do anything...I am still doing some editing on my part. See you all tomorrow. ~ JOSH

The best thing for EVERYONE to do is to read the entire paper FRONT TO BACK, and help edit, even what you DIDN'T write! The more we do this the smoother and better it will be. If it does'nt make sense or is spelled wrong, fix it. amanda

Our Topic
22:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

We are going to choose the top of corporate responsibility, we talked about it a bunch today and everyone get to the 'searchin! Flynn Joffray

Outline discussion notes 7-20
Corporate Responsibility intro

What is a corporation?

What rights and responsibilities do they have?

History of, why and how?

Body suggestions


 * Social
 * Advertising
 * Environmental
 * Impact
 * Limits and restirictions
 * Stewards
 * Business
 * Consumer
 * Privacy
 * Cost and pricing
 * Service vs Utility

Informational Greed HarryCaldwell

= Organizing our stuff =

I think it could be a good idea to outline what kind of stuff we are thinking of and what we want to do with it, in kind of a rough sense. In this section, I'm going to make a little area so we can all start doing that, and it wont have to be on the main page. Then when we are ready, we can just copy and paste stuff to the main group page! Also, this could be a good place to keep your information and let everyone see what you've been up to?

Amanda Vanpoucke
Ive transferred everything to the main page. All my research has been put in writing. Now lets get to editing!Amandavanpoucke

Flynn Joffray

 * Corps & Consumer Privacy Issues, privacy today
 * Technology
 * Tracking
 * Privacy Rights, autoblog, nytimes about egypt, brighthub, verizon chaperone,
 * EFF - EFF-google - court ruling - wiretapping
 * Employee Monitoring Privacy Rights
 * RFID (radio frequency identification)
 * Spychips, RFID journal
 * Financial Times - -  -
 * CIO
 * Customer Information
 * Internet Service Providers
 * Behavioral targeting
 * Anil Batra's Blog - -
 * SlashdotNews -
 * WallStreetJournal, MediaPost
 * Policy restrictions (p2p and bittorrent)
 * CNET, Glasnost, Study on p2p, Wired
 * The Pirate Bay - wikipedia - CNN
 * Telephone Companies

Josh Maldonado
'''To clarify, I am writing about the effects of advertising/marketing from corporations on society. This falls into our main category: SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. Here is some rough writing with some citations and statistics. This is how my part will start: '''

Corporations, or any sort of business for that matter, need to advertise in order to create acquisition. It is obvious that certain companies plan their advertising in a negative fashion, by taking advantage of the consumer or such tactics, in order to gain profit. In many cases, unfortunately, it’s out of control. However, to qualify this argument against negative advertising tactics, it’s important to note the benefits of advertising in general.

Back in the early 1980’s (which I am going to call “the old days” and by that I mean pre-internet advertising) an experiment was conducted to test the effects of public price advertising on beer sales. A few areas in the Lower Michigan area were considered and the month that advertising took place grew the companies units sold by close to one hundred thousand gallons in each area. (Lee, 522) There are many situations in which companies will advertise positive messages like lower prices, reliability and hidden needs targeting that are both beneficial to the company and the consumer. Our nation has spent about $412 billion in advertising annually according to an article by Outsell Inc. And now with the internet, advertisers have much more access to the nation. To push things even further, the mobile revolution has hit the streets and $1.4 billion dollars have been spent on display and message advertising on cell phones. It can be overwhelming, but in a cutthroat, super competitive society it is the only way that many companies are staying afloat. But where does the social responsibility come in for Corporate America? We know that corporations need advertising to survive, but at what cost to the nation?

HERE IS SOME MORE ON MY TOPIC STILL WRITING...WILL HAVE MORE BY END OF DAY

In the United States, the APA (American Psychological Association) created a task force to target young children and how advertising affects them. They discovered that children around the age of 8 and under are not able to comprehend the fact that advertisements are not always “truthful, accurate and unbiased” (apa.com). Furthermore the average kid watches more than 40,000 TV commercials a year. Steven Manning, a writer who focuses on schoolhouse commercialism, states that by the time your kid is between fourteen and eighteen months they will be nagging you for toys or snack foods every four hours. Large corporations have always targeted youth as a huge source for profitable gain. How can you say no to those beautiful little eyes? “He alone who owns the youth, gains the future” This is a quote by none other than Adolf Hitler. Greenpeace, Truth and other organizations have always targeted college and high school students for their passion and energy. But at what age does the comprehension begin to decide whether or not to support a certain organization or buy a certain product. “40% of sales of jeans, burgers and other products occur because a child asks for the product” (ihc 27).

I need some examples in this previous paragraph before final draft comes...

Women are another prime target for negative advertising. The most common way that advertisers use to target women is their sex appeal. There is a growing demand for women to be super sexy and super thin. In order to achieve these high demands they must buy the most expensive makeup and get on the latest diet trends. The dietary industry brings over $33 million annually. Women are exposed to about 400-600 ads every day. What’s worse is the fact that most people in marketing do not directly insult the female image. These messages are designed to slip under the normal limits of our minds perception and land directly into our subconscious. Unfortunately this form of advertising is much more obvious and effective than a direct message. Young women and even adolescents are frequently targeted the most.

to be continued

Elena Toteva
1. Corporations 2. Small businesses http://www.business.gov/ 3. S Corporations or Small Business Corporation http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=98263,00.html
 * Benefits
 * specific job
 * large taxes
 * Multy tasking
 * No benefits
 * More family-like envoirnment
 * Multiple experience
 * No Corporate Tax
 * Liability protection
 * less attraction for investors
 * Corporate meeting

What is corporation? Technically speaking, a corporation is what Peter Thayer Robbins author of “Greening the Corporation: Management Strategy and the Environmental Challenge” describes as a “social invention of the state” (Robbins: p.98) When, a state grants a corporate license, permitting private financial resources being used for public purposes. The advantage of having a corporation over being an individual investing in trade journey is that an individual’s debts could be present at birth by descendants.

The biggest turn of the corporations being “good” to being “bad” is when the Supreme Court ruled in 1886, that a private corporation is a natural person under the U.S. Constitution, and consequently has the same rights and protection extended to persons by the Bill of Rights, including the right to free speech. Furthermore, corporations were given the same “rights” to influence the government in their own interests as to individual citizens, and to use their wealth to dominate public opinions.

In the book, Capitalism and Freedom, the author argues that “there is one and only one social responsibility of business—to use its resources and engage in activities designed to increase its profits” even if that contradict with the social good. This theory is appealing for many companies; larger ones in particular are often involved in exploitative practices of some sort, sometimes through sub-contractors. With companies increasing financial influence, come increasing financial powers in the political arena and influence politicians in their favor. Corporate bodies can “donate” millions of dollars to political candidates, and that is legal entity? In some countries is called corruption, where here is called sponsorship. Corporations, as “persons,” are free to lobby legislatures, use the mass media and all that in the interest of free speech. A common analysis is that advanced economies have often moved their “more dirty industries” to other parts of the world where there are less severe environmental and social standards. As a result, other countries may be polluting on their behalf. Now more and more corporations are turning “green”, which means are more environmentally cautions. Microsoft Corporation for example, are developing new software to reduce the energy consumption and reducing the need of business travel with the help of virtual meetings and safe document transfer. All these factors are part of the so-called Corporate Social Responsibility. The Corporate Social Responsibility Initiative is an organization to Harvard Kennedy School, which seeks to study and enhance the effectiveness of corporate social responsibility. That organization defines the Corporate Social Responsibility strategically. “Corporate social responsibility encompasses not only what companies do with their profits, but also how they make them. It goes beyond philanthropy and compliance and addresses how companies manage their economic, social, and environmental impacts, as well as their relationships in all key spheres of influence: the workplace, the marketplace, the supply chain, the community, and the public policy realm”. (CSRI)Elenatoteva

Harry Caldwell

 * The Corporate Environmental Footprint
 * Products
 * Furniture
 * Cradle to Cradle Certification
 * Herman Miller
 * Jewelry
 * Custom Manufacturing
 * Recycled Metal
 * Manufacturing
 * Buildings & Architecture
 * LEED Certification
 * Herman Miller MFG


 * Free WritingHarryCaldwell 23:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Corporate responsibility is somewhat of an oxymoron to the ears and eyes of a significant portion of the population. Corporate interests in most minds reside solely in profit for shareholders. The ford vs dodge case in 19.?? established a clear precedent to bolster this viewpoint. in recent years the markets have crashed and bubbles have burst leaving many with worthless investments and little else to show for them. Still there are examples of corporations that are leading the way to a new future where profit are in harmony with environmental protections and sustainable products. One such corporation is Herman Miller furniture based in Holland Michigan.

My family has been intimately involved with herman miller for since its founding in 193?. As residents of Holland they watched as the factory was built and sent their sons to work on the assembly line. During this time they witnessed a clear vision of a business plan that was years ahead of its time. The founder Dirk J. Depree made a clear statement in 1949 that “ Herman Miller shall be a good steward to the environment”. This statement was made out of religious convictions that Mr. DePree developed as a Baptist minister in the neighboring town of Zealand. It was his belief that taking care of gods green earth was of paramount importance and that all other efforts would be in vain if gods creations were polluted or destroyed for the sake of profit. Charles and Rae Eames shared this vision and when they joined the design team in 194? Charles described the ideal set of product design constraints that meets the specific needs of three critical components. 1. The needs of the company (Is it profitable?) 2. The needs of the Community (are the workers and community taken care of?) 3. The needs of the environment (do the products and process enhance the environment?) Finding a design synergy between these three needs provides products that will solve problems, generate profits and protect the planet.

This vision led the way for a goal towards truly sustainable manufacturing that not only incorporates products designed for minimal material usages but factories that better the surrounding environment and the people who work within them. LEED Certification is the current standard that new “green Buildings” are judged by. herman miller was extensively involved in formulating what defined architecture as sustainable. They took it upon themselves to research and develop standards that were then submitted to government regulatory boards and eventually developed into the LEED standards. In this way the corporation was self aware and responsible for its impacts and made the findings public to lead by example.

Herman Millers corporate plan to be environmental stewards and honest with the products that they produce, created a vision of the corporation that my family still holds on to. Unfortunately this corporate model is not widespread yet my family finds it difficult to believe that other companies would behave otherwise. This has made debate on corporate desires for greed, very difficult to convey as they see big business as a beneficial entity that need not be regulated because the company they relate to most regulates itself very well. why add regulations or increase taxes for doing the right thing? their view is that one should be rewarded with less taxes if a company is strong and doing its part by helping others to be self aware. I have voiced on may occasions that i felt that the american corporate control in government is hurting our efforts to be a the best we can be. Regulators of industry should not be industry insiders and board big whigs. i can cite several examples of industry dictating the rules they should follow.

The concerns of government and business marriage are vast and with lobbyists outnumbering elected officials in Washington, it is clear that they are nearly inseparable. governmental regulations of industry have in large part been written by the very companies that the regulations are meant to affect.


 * Corporate morals

If the corporation is to be acknowledged as an individual under US law one should look at the aspects of the individuals conduct in modern free societies. What rules does the individual live by in order to keep a sustainable and happy existence? What penalties are incurred if the individual disobeys these rules and guidelines? how does morality play into the daily activities of the individual? what drives us to follow a moral code?

Corperations exist as artificial persons under us law. artifcial persons cannot vote or hold office however they do have rights of free speach and of due process they can be sued and sue the same as a natural person.

All Natural people need food and water to survive and most individuals rely on money to acquire these items of sustenance. The basic human necessities have parallels in the situation faced by corporations in search of survival. raw materials for maurfacturing, new and existing customers to service providers are some basic needs in addition to raw capital for financial transactions The moral implication is in the methods of acquisition of these limited resources. Laws are written  but one cannot imprison a corporation the same as an Actual person

Potential problem to argue, Corporate Personhood