Wikiversity:Motto contest/Round 5

These is a record of round 5 of Wikiversity's motto and slogan contests.

Goals
We need to create and select:
 * 1) a Wikiversity motto
 * 2) a short description (for use with the Wikiversity logo on sister Wikimedia projects)
 * 3) a slogan

There are two contests, using the same options, to choose phrases to fulfill these three roles

The motto contest fulfills two purposes, choosing:
 * A Wikiversity motto, which is a general phrase which conveys the mission of Wikiversity (or part of the mission), which may be inspiring or appeal to a general principle. This purpose emerged in the course of various of the options proposed and selected in rounds 1-3 of this contest.


 * A "short description," which is a short phrase that describes a Wikimedia project briefly. This was the original purpose of the motto contest. The "short description" will be listed with our logo (see our logo contest) and project name on Wikimedia sister projects. Here are some Wikimedia logo-name-motto examples:

Here are logo-name-motto examples the Wikiversity logo finalist and some of the motto finalists:

The slogan contest is for choosing a descriptive phrase to be listed at the top of our main page just under "Welcome to Wikiversity."

We are now into Round 6 of the selection process. The selection process is summarized at the end of this page.

Round 5
Please list your name below in support of only one motto group and only one slogan group.

The winning motto and winning slogan will be the options with majority support. A Round 6 may be needed to refine and select amongst the winning group options.

Please share comments in the comment section below that help explain the meaning and intent of mottos and slogans.

Motto Finalists
The motto contest fulfills two purposes as discussed in the goals section above. As noted, this contest now includes all options receiving support of four or more persons from both the motto and slogan contests. Please select one option:

Motto: "Set learning free" group

 * a. Because knowledge should be free.
 * b. Set Learning Free.
 * c. Knowledge is free. (Note: This variation, and similar ones, emerged in discussion points.)
 * d. The Free University : The slogan should be simple and explain itself.
 * Support:
 * 1) I support the "knowledge is free" option suggested above.  The Jade Knight 23:07, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) I'm all for the "Knowledge is free" option :) --Pedro.Gonnet 09:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Mathboy965 16:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Support "Because knowledge should be free". --Cloud668 18:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Support for 'knowledge is free' Trevor Reid 20:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Definitely "Because knowledge should be free" --Harriska2 9:48, 08 November 2006 PST
 * 7) I Support the "knowledge is free" option.  Prasoon 09:33, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) I support "Knowledge is free"  Heltec  talk
 * 9) I support "knowlege is free" GandalfsWhisper 04:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) 'Set Learning Free' is definitely the best option. Wikiversity is about education. Bensharpie 00:01, 07 December 2006 (AST)
 * 11) How about "For Knowledge is Free"?  The word 'for' has the both the definitions 'because of' and 'supporting', so "For Knowledge is Free" could be taken as meaning either as supporting "Knowledge is Free" or "Because Knowledge is Free" (as it should be).Sol1496 19:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) I definetly prefer Sol's For Knowledge is Free - another variation to consider: (For) Knowledge (is) supposed to be Free or we could take Wisdom instead of Knowledge (maybe knowlegde is more related to wikipedia) - so how so how sounds Free (is) Wisdom? Cya, Sithem 16:30, 12 December 2006 (ECT)
 * 13) For Knowledge is/should be free.
 * 14) 'Set Learning Free'! Elatanatari 01:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 15) I support "Set Learning Free", because that's what Wikiversity is essentially doing. Celebere 20:30, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) Support - Both mottos exemplify what Wikiversity is doing, but this one just sounds better.

Motto: "Open/free learning community" group

 * a. Open learning community / An open learning community
 * b. Free learning community / A free learning community
 * Support:
 * 1) I think it is important to promote wikiversity as a community space --Iwoj 02:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) sebmol ? 09:26, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Preferably a (to go along with the "opening minds.." slogan) - though possibly without the indefinite article, ie "Open learning community". Cormaggio 18:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Alarob 21:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC) (who hasn't created a user page yet)
 * 5) 'Open' describes this project best. Awolf002 00:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Wikiversity spirit. guillom 10:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 7)  I like a also.  --Smithgrrl 02:15, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) a. Matteo 01:46, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Without anything more inspiring, I would supporta. But I would reorder the words into Community for Open Learning, with the emphasis on Community.--Hillgentleman 05:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) a. or b. -- Reswik 18:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) a. or b. as well (got motto and slogan confused)--Rayc 21:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) b. What about - Free learning for all/ everyone -- Ron
 * 13) Preferably b, but a is okay. Good description of what the project is about - if the motto should serve as the 'short description' thingie. --Lhademmor 17:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 14) My much belated vote for b, preferably with a definite article before it :). AmiDaniel (talk) 08:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 15) A/The free learning community --Remi0o 08:16, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 16) Support a. 85.204.176.2 16:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Slogan Finalists
"Welcome,Learning is Exchanging Knowledge." This can be a short sentence or phrase - for listing at top of main page with "Welcome to Wikiversity". As noted above, by the end of round three, the initial alternates below received support from at least four people in either the motto or the slogan contest. Please list your support under one option group:

Slogan: "set learning free" group

 * a. Because knowledge should be free.
 * b. Set Learning Free.
 * c. Knowledge is free. (Note: This variation, and similar ones, emerged in discussion points.)
 * Support:
 * 1) I support the "knowledge is free" option suggested above.  The Jade Knight 23:07, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) I'm all for the "Knowledge is free" option :) --Pedro.Gonnet 09:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Mathboy965 16:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Still the most pithy way to put it (b or c). But maybe not a good motto so use it as the slogan, please. Awolf002 00:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Changed vote to "Knowledge is free." Talonhawk 22:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Support: "Because knowledge should be free" Think outside the box 12:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) Support: "Knowledge is free." Trevor Reid 21:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) Definitely "Because knowledge should be free" --Harriska2 9:48, 08 November 2006 PST
 * 9) Supportting "Set Learning Free." Prasoon 09:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) b. 'set learning/knowledge free' --Aidan 17:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) Definitely "Let Knowledge Grow" --B 5:15, 29 November 2006 PST
 * 12) b. - a sounds like a Nike-ad and the "open mind"-things make me think of lobotomy --Lhademmor 17:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 13) *What is lobotomy?--Hillgentleman|User talk 08:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 14) **See Lobotomy Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 05:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 15) ***What is lobotomy?--Hillgentleman|User talk 17:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 16) Because knowledge should be free. --Remi0o 08:18, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 17) Definitely "Knowledge is free." --NehpestTheFirst 13:19, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 18) Support: simple and gives a little insight into the project "Because knowledge should be free" Grosscha 16:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Slogan: "opening minds..." group

 * a. Opening minds through open learning.
 * b. Open learning to open minds. (Note: This variation, and similar ones, emerged in discussion points.)
 * c. Open learning for open minds.


 * Support:
 * 1) --Smithgrrl 05:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Cormaggio 18:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) --Alexscho 20:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) --CaseInPoint 13:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) -- Matteo 01:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) -- Reswik 18:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) With no better options- the others are either too apologetic (because knowledge is free), or too generic (knowledge is free).--Hillgentleman|User talk:hillgentleman 09:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) --Rayc 17:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Support b.--Vince 17:44, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) Support --NightDragon 11:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) Support a ---Haroon 16:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) Support b --- SlakaJ 22:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 13) Support b -- Celebere 20:33, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) Support a Mos87 07:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Comments
The comments sections for mottos and slogans have been combined for this stage:

→"Knowledge means being Free"Marietta 14:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC) MariettaBP====Comments:"set learning free" group====
 * Because knowledge should be free.
 * This one would be better if 'because' was dropped, 'because ' seems like we have to justify Wikiversity, "Knowledge should be free" is more powerful. CharlieCLC
 * Why even make it conditional? "Knowledge is free" is even more powerful. Pedro.Gonnet 09:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Why not borrow from Shakespeare? "Thought is free" (The Tempest) --Lord Pheasant 03:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesn't light my desire to learn.-Hillgentleman 09:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The use of "Because" is very pertinent - it is a bit of a direct lashing out at the publishing companies and the idea that you NEED to pay for knowledge. Many people without the knowledge or understanding of the principles behind wikimedia, GNU, etc might be surprised that there is alternative.  The word "Because" brings that to light. --Harriska2 9:48, 08 November 2006 PST
 * I think the "Because" is awful - this slogan proposes that we have at the top of our front page: "Welcome to Wikiversity - because knowledge should be free". This doesn't even make sense as a sentence. I agree with Harriska2 that we are making a case for the freedom of knowledge, but I think we should make that case implicitly, rather than have to shout it out. Wikipedia doesn't have to cry out "because knowledge should be free" - it just says it implicitly. Cormaggio 18:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * In that case, use because somewhere else such as a slogan. I agree that it sounds terrible: "Welcome to Wikiversity - because knowledge is free"--Harriska2 11:24, 08 November 2006 PST
 * I'd also make the point that this phrase is entirely inappropriate for a motto. The motto is meant to be a short description of the project on the front pages of other sister projects. It should be just that - a description of the project. About half of the currently proposed mottos are completely unusable - they don't describe what the project is or does. Cormaggio 23:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC) Also, just to clarify, I was talking firstly about this is as a slogan - which goes at the top of the front page of Wikiversity. Mottos are what go on the front pages of other projects, like Wikipedia. In my view, to repeat, this proposal is a bad idea for a slogan - but far worse as a motto. Cormaggio 08:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Freedom in knowledge, for knowledge is freedom.
 * I know I am late, but I would like this one Massimamanno 13:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Set Learning Free
 * Pithy and to the point. Although I like the "Three Nouns" approach, too, cleary we must have the word Free in the motto! Awolf002 00:00, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I like the context free is used in, meaning available and accessible. CharlieCLC
 * It doesn't motivate me.-Hillgentleman 09:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)




 * Knowledge Is Free


 * Free learning tools
 * used on Wikibooks main page with Wikiversity logo -- selected by ?
 * It doesn't light a fire in my heart.-Hillgentleman 09:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Free learning materials and activities
 * used on Wikipedia with Wikiversity logo -- selected by ?
 * It doesn't sound like a Motto. A motto is a set of words you keep for youself, and keep yourself going. Would you work hard for the Free Learning Communuty, or for Truth, Beauty,Wisdom? -Hillgentleman 09:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Greg Davis 20:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)I don't like references to free - Knowledge is not free. One pays for it with intention, effort, validation and internalization. I'm left with "open" since it cites the spirit of Wikipedia - knowledge from the people, for the people. Or what about Wikiversity: "Now U Know"
 * Another alternative: How about a wordplay? "Priceless knowledge, at no price!" Bhaswar
 * Suggested by Ngober: "Learning Together Freely" and "Freedom to Learn" or "Priceless Knowledge" and "Free Knowledge for Freedom of Thought"
 * Suggested by anon. on 11/10/06: Learning across Boundaries.
 * What about a motto that combines some of these themes: "Like the best minds: Open, Free and Fair."

Comments: "opening minds..." group

 * Opening minds through open learning
 * See my comment about "openness" under "an open learning community" in the motto comment section. Reswik 15:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Also: Perhaps including "free" in a variant of the above is a better fit for the Wikiversity context? -- Reswik 13:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC). As in:
 * Opening minds through free learning

I like the parallel "open" idea, catchy! But I don't think we're taking full advantage of the versatility of the word "open". An adjective - verb parallel might sink it better... Other alternatives -- CaseInPoint 23:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Opening school to open minds would be my preference.
 * Open school, open minds
 * Open learning to open minds
 * Open teaching to open minds
 * etc.
 * Free Your Mind.
 * My personal suggestion. --NightDragon 11:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

My idea: Open source, Open minds

Comments: "open/free learning community" group

 * An open learning community
 * I switched my vote from "free learning community" to this for various reasons, including: 1) the appeal of the rich connotations of openness in the context of learning, in spite of my agreeing with the "free" side of debate in the politics of open source vs. free software; 2) the resonance with the slogan with most support below (so far) which uses "open."; 3) this offers our to-be-extensive project an opportunity to contribute (in discussions and on possible page(s) of explanation somewhere) to re-interpreting the implications of open, openness, and opening (in various senses such as development, awakening and liberation) in relation to the meaning of freedom in the free culture movement. Reswik 17:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesn't light my desire to learn.-Hillgentleman 09:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Free learning community
 * It doesn't sound like a Motto. A motto is a set of words you keep for youself.  Free learning community sounds more like a three-letter advertisement and is more suitable to be a SLOGAN.-Hillgentleman 09:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Reswik, I would rather place the emphasis on learning, e.g. Community for Open Learning.--Hillgentleman 07:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * On reflection, for the motto contest, I prefer the open/free learning/education options -- simpler. --Reswik 14:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It certainly is simple, straight forward, and accurate. If nothing else better comes up, why not stick with simplisty? --  Zanimum 16:41, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, plainly. Opening minds or not, let the events speak for themselves.--Hillgentleman
 * Here are some personal suggestions for a motto:
 * 1. AN INDIVIDUAL MIND. A COLLECTIVE WEB OF KNOWLEDGE.
 * 2. KNOWLEDGE...UNLOCKED.
 * Something like that. Catchy, and motivational, as a motto should be.
 * Something like that. Catchy, and motivational, as a motto should be.

I also liked the proposal 'OPEN SCHOOL, OPEN MINDS' made earlier.62.234.16.29 22:46, 29 November 2006 (UTC)by giordanellius

the motto's got to be catchy. i support 'KNOWLEDGE...UNLOCKED' and 'OPEN SCHOOL, OPEN MINDS'. how about 'FOR THOSE WHO SEEK' Haroon 16:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC) how about this: Teaching Each Other

well i add mine here hope it will catch someone's attention i tried my best cos this site gives alot and in return i like to give back:


 * 1. "we share the flair of life"


 * 2. "we share if you dare"

Aymanjabroun 17:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 3. "wikiducate your mind & soul"

[Sudhir, 15th January 2007]: Just a suggestion ... "Free Knowledge for Open Minds (FKOM)". I hope it gels with the mission of "WIKIVERSITY".

Selection Process
Many options were listed and did not receive a strong majority in Rounds 1, 2 and 3. Hence, we need additional round(s) to arrive at consensus choice(s).

About Rounds 4 and 5

For rounds 4 and 5, alternates in each previous contest having support from at least four people are included, from both the motto and slogan contests. For round 4, both contests included the most supported options from the other contest. This is because some motto contest alternatives could be very good slogans and vice-versa. For round 5, groups with 4 or more supporters in round 4 were included.

To possibly create very good alternatives, new options very similar in theme to existing ones are welcome as suggestions in the comment section. (Mottos and slogans with new themes can be added to the round 2 lists.) Feel free to share comments in the comment sections that help explain the meaning and intent of mottos and slogans.

See the current top level motto contest page for a summary of contest steps.