Wikiversity talk:Community service

Having two pages that differ only in pluralization is confusing. - dcljr 22:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


 * These are quite distinct as described. This page relates to possible service projects by Wikiversity groups and person for the good of society, as in helpful research and education efforts for needy communities and groups. Services as used relates to internal and external services to individuals, as in help finding a research tutor, collaborator or a job.  This distinction can be drawn out more -- even explained on each service page. Reswik 18:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The distinction should be made clear in the titles of the pages themselves (i.e., at least one of them, and maybe both, should be renamed). - dcljr 20:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * At Wikiversity talk:Services I suggested that that page be renamed What can Wikiversity do for me?, or maybe What can it do for me?. - Trevor MacInnis 20:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Here's a third similarly-named page: Service community. - dcljr 22:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The focus of the Service community page is on services for the Wikimedia commuinty. I agree that one or more of these service pages could be more accurately named. I don't like something like "What can wikiversity do for me" because this has a connotation of selfishness. Services are not necessarily a selfish thing for the provider or even the recipient. Here are naming options for the three pages mentioned:
 * Service [or Services (which includes prominent lnks to the following pages)]
 * Services for individuals
 * Services for Wikimedia projects
 * What do you think? (Btw, I thought JWSchmidt might want to comment on this discussion, so I dropped a note on his user page.) Reswik 01:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

types of service
Service-related activities should become a large part of Wikiversity. The three existing pages (Services, Service community and Service) correspond roughly to three important types of service activities:1) services for Wikiversity participants2) services provided by Wikiversity for other Wikimedia projects3) services provided to the whole world beyond Wikimedia Foundation projects.When I started Service community and the related pages (Wikiversity and Wikipedia services and Wikiversity and Wikibooks services) I was thinking in terms of Wikimedia community service projects that would allow scholarly activity at Wikiversity to serve the needs of sister projects like Wikiversity and Wikibooks. I would leave those three pages in the main namespace. If a significant amount of activity is generated for such Wikimedia community service projects then it will probably make sense to have at least one page in the project namespace to deal with meta-level discussion of Wikimedia community service. --JWSchmidt 02:40, 8 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The basic problem here is that service has two connotations, based on whether one is giving or receiving the service(s). Different page names need to be chosen in order to clear up this (potential source of) confusion. The best solution, it seems to me, would be to:
 * rename Service to Community service (since "community" will no doubt be interpreted as "the larger world" by most people visiting this site, we should not use it to refer only to "other Wikimedia projects");
 * keep Services as a central page that points to all the other "service" related pages, and redirect the singular Service to the plural version;
 * rename Service community to Services for other Wikimedia projects (or simply Other Wikimedia projects, which in turn will point to the other Wikimedia-specific pages &mdash; which I believe should also be renamed:
 * Wikiversity and Wikibooks services &rarr; Wikibooks services
 * Wikiversity and Wikipedia services &rarr; Wikipedia services
 * etc...
 * As you can see, I recommend keeping all of these "meta" type pages in the Wikiversity: namespace, as they are discussing Wikiversity itself, not the subject matter of the wiki, which is educational materials. Also, I haven't proposed a separate "services for end users" page, since I figured that would be done at the top of the Services page, with links to the other types of "service(s)" below. - dcljr 20:30, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Unless there's some objection (or further suggestions), I'll start to implement my ideas in a few days. - dcljr 18:28, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


 * The above seems fine to me except for this point:
 * Service community to Services for Wikimedia projects, not other Wikimedia projects. The top of the Services page will need some work. Reswik 22:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)