Wikiversity talk:Delegable proxy

Social network
The delegable proxy system creates a social network. I wrote a proposal for a social network some time ago and translated it to English just now: User:Fasten/Social network. --Bernhard Fastenrath 14:05, 19 September 2011 (UTC) sig added by Abd 15:24, 19 September 2011 (UTC) to deal with interspersal by Darklama


 * I've had an idea for a social network for awhile as well. See Mentors. -- dark lama  14:38, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

The idea here would be that such a network can have more uses than just the single purpose of appointing a delegable proxy and should be created using a set of templates to be used on user pages or on dedicated sub pages of user pages. I think the delegable proxy system would be more usable and its use would more suggest itself to the average user if it was part of a larger system such as the proposed social network. --Bernhard Fastenrath 14:05, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


 * This response is longer than I'd like. This happens to be my Favorite Topic for the last decade, and I'm widely known for developing FA/DP theory. (FA: Free Association. The Assembly is designed as a Free Association. DP is delegable proxy.)


 * I made this page as a separate page and not as part of the Assembly page structure, itself, because it does have larger applications. It is possible to have separate proxy tables for different purposes. This has all been developed conceptually, for general application, see w:WP:PRX. That proposal used a templated and substituted file structure, and built a proxy table centrally from a list of transcluded user proxy files. In a later development for that proposal, the system was modified to simplify it a bit and to allow many proxy tables to be compiled. For example, a WikiProject could have, with its "membership" list, a signup which at the same time allows specification of a "specific proxy" for that activity.


 * Most people, though, to understand the utility of this, are going to need to see a functioning example.


 * However, the minimum for a delegable proxy system to function has always been this: a defined membership of a structure, and then defined proxy assignments. Many people, thinking about this for the first time, come up with the idea of multiple proxies. It will take some explanation as to why this is a Bad Idea, generally, but there are ways that a system could properly incorporate it. (It's better to know who is responsible, would be my summary.) A number of details may not be obvious at first.


 * There is a secret ballot variation on Delegable Proxy. It's called Asset Voting, and it was invented in about 1883 by Lewis Carroll, who happened to be probably, the world's foremost expert on voting systems. He was more than a century ahead of the general thinking. Political scientists still think (as far as what I've seen published) that what I've seen Asset Voting do is impossible. It did it handily and without fuss. The common opinion is simply a reflection of incorporated assumptions about political systems that aren't questioned.


 * I'm excited to see that some users other than myself are thinking about these things. Thanks, Fasten, and thanks, Darklama.


 * Specifically, yes, Fasten, what delegable proxy does is build an explicit social network. Delegable proxy itself, besides the work of Lewis Carroll, and some odd political proposals in the U.S. in the early 20th century, is the independent invention of maybe a half dozen people, as far as I've encountered, around the world, all within roughly a decade of each other. It's coming. I have no doubt about that, and the personal logjams that kept me from being effective with it have been broken. --Abd 15:24, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

language adapated to WV here
afaik here is used terms like custodians instead of administrators. Using such terms would distribute its notion, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat + Identi.ca 12:12, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * (same for the Assembly page), Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat + Identi.ca 12:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

comment while reading...
I am still reading... but in my view estimations are just estimations. If one wants to know what is the "real" opinion: one goes to that user + asks for feedback, which also can be: sorry, no time/comment, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat + Identi.ca 12:15, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

link for these...

 * "When delegable proxy was suggested on Wikipedia"
 * "In discussions of Delegable Proxy elsewhere"
 * would be interesting to see where this approach was/is used + what happened, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat + Identi.ca 12:40, 21 October 2011 (UTC)