Wikiversity talk:Exemption Doctrine Policy

See prior discussion at Wikiversity talk:Uploading files (permanent link). Relevant section headers from that discussion are below.

==information Policy for uploaded files that lack the needed source/copyright/licensing information== JWSchmidt, one of the founders of Wikiversity, gave the history of the policy section. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Updating the EDP
''Geoff Plourde. a custodian, proposed changes to the EDP.'' --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Fair Use Review

 * Replace 4 with: "Requests from copyright holders that copyrighted content be removed from Wikiversity are honored. Whenever a copyright holder disputes the rationale for fair use, the rationale will be reviewed by a impartial custodian to verify that the fair use doctrine is actually applicable to the content so utilized."

Machine-Readable Format

 * Add 8: "Content used under the fair use doctrine must be identified in a machine-readable format so that it can be easily identified by users of the site as well as re-users. The specific rationale used must also be in a machine-readable format. People who understand what 'machine-readable format' means and how to put something into 'machine-readable format' should help with this task."

Questions and discussion
''JSSchmidt asked why it should be a custodian who reviews, and questioned the meaning of "machine-readable format." Specifically, JWSchmidt wrote''
 * I wrote #4 the way it is now because I think that decisions about fair use are are up to the person who makes the claim and I don't think it is fair to make anyone else take responsibility for a fair use claim. I think any request to terminate a fair use claim at Wikiversity should be automatically honored. [...] --JWSchmidt 04:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Geoff Plourde suggested
 * 8: "Content used under the fair use doctrine can be identified in a machine-readable format so that it can be easily identified by users of the site as well as re-users. The specific rationale used can also be put into a machine-readable format. People who understand what 'machine-readable format' means and how to put something into 'machine-readable format' should help with this task."

No changes were made. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Proposed change to EDP
I proposed the following exception to the EDP, based on an actual case. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Exceptions
 * 1) A user may upload personal photos for use on their user page, asserting ownership of the copyright (or permission of the copyright holder, who should be specified if not the user). They may reserve rights as to further publication of these photos.


 * Bilby opposed.
 * Darklama suggested that photos of living people be specifically excluded, pointing to the Foundation Resolution, which uses notable living people as an example of where free images should be available.
 * S Larctia stated that Foundation resolutions are binding, and reported asking a Foundation liason about this issue.
 * I pointed out that answers depend on questions, and a question posed by someone who is opposed to the idea is likely to be framed in a way as to generate rejection. The goal here was to decide what we want, and then we can either go ahead and do it, or propose it and ask. If we don't know what we want, we will never get it. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Darklama suggested that if we did what was being proposed, the Foundation would threaten to shut down Wikiversity.
 * I think input from the Foundation about desired changes should happen before Wikiversity's EDP is changed. [...]. Changing Wikiversity's EDP without discussion and input from the Foundation is what you proposed to do. -- dark lama  22:51, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

What was being done was to discuss changes'' to the EDP. The Foundation has allowed individual wikis to set their own EDP. A single user here did that. If the Foundation wished to require consultation before establishing or changing an EDP, it could easily do so. There is no proposal here to defeat the purpose of the EDP, but rather to apply that purpose to the specific requirements of Wikiversity, which may suggest different requirements than, say, a policy designed for Wikipedia.'' --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Fair use files
Bilby pointed to Uploading files/Fair use audit.

Permitted usage vs. Fair Use
''I discussed distinguishing fair use from permitted use. Both are non-free use, so both require machine-readable categorization.'' --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC) A local copy of the 2007 WMF board resolution was created at Wikiversity:Uploading files/Resolution:Licensing policy --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:21, 3 March 2014 (UTC)